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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 12:23:12 GMT -5
You Gators are a real trip. I have stated all along that the game should remain in Jacksonville.
The weather difference is insignificant, but there is a difference. And GD, don't give me this we play up north too. Yes you do, on alternating years. If the game were played in September you would be right. But the average high for Athens on 30 September is exactly that of Gainesville on 30 October. Again not a decisive factor at all.
I have no idea what you are smoking, but I drive my BMW to Atlanta Airport every Monday morning and it takes me an hour. I am 40 minutes from Athens in same BMW along the identical stretch of highway. That is 1 1/2 hours in a BMW....you figure a bus does it in a half an hour. Does the guy who taught Corrine Brown to speak also teach geography to gators? ;D
And who is whining? You guys are doing all the whining...afraid that Georgia would move the game. I have yet to see a Georgia fan on here suggest they want it moved. Don't panic.
Greek....you could have beaten that Georgia team by 50 points had it been played on the moon. Nebraska might have beaten us by 100 pts. ;D
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 12:27:00 GMT -5
Georgia does not set up the SEC schedule...the Commissioner does. Georgia sets up OOC schedule around that SEC schedule.
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Post by athens on May 12, 2009 12:32:13 GMT -5
What do you expect from an FSU transplant? The funny thing is that UGA bitches and cries saying we have to take a bus all the way to Atlanta then fly to Jacksonville. It is so unfair that our guys must deal with this. First it is not like they fly in Friday night or Saturday morning. They are down here almost all week. Second Athens Georgia is bigger than Gainesville Florida. I find it funny that the Gators have a plane and they Fly right out of Gainesville not 15 mins from campus. Of course I am sure that UGA is more than willing to give up the exposer to the Florida High School Athletes. We all know what kind of team Georgia would have with out Florida kids on it. They would suck as bad as UT or USCe Gainesville - 114,375 Athens - 112,760 Athens does have an airport, but not a very big one, I am not sure if UGA uses it or not. We currently only have 9 players on the roster from FL, I guess they must play both sides of the ball to keep us in games... ;D
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Post by The Greek on May 12, 2009 12:33:56 GMT -5
I'm with BD on this....
And see what CMR is saying....but it's tradition....and it was fine during UGA's stompings of the Gators on a regular basis....so why the support for the change from any UGA fan or coach?
Gator fans....realize that CMR doesn't decide these things....he's just crying....er....voicing his opinion ;D
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Post by raleighrebel on May 12, 2009 12:35:53 GMT -5
What do you expect from an FSU transplant? The funny thing is that UGA bitches and cries saying we have to take a bus all the way to Atlanta then fly to Jacksonville. It is so unfair that our guys must deal with this. First it is not like they fly in Friday night or Saturday morning. They are down here almost all week. Second Athens Georgia is bigger than Gainesville Florida. I find it funny that the Gators have a plane and they Fly right out of Gainesville not 15 mins from campus. Of course I am sure that UGA is more than willing to give up the exposer to the Florida High School Athletes. We all know what kind of team Georgia would have with out Florida kids on it. They would suck as bad as UT or USCe Gainesville - 114,375 Athens - 112,760 Athens does have an airport, but not a very big one, I am not sure if UGA uses it or not. We currently only have 9 players on the roster from FL, I guess they must play both sides of the ball to keep us in games... ;D wow, athens blew that argument out of the water
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 12:39:37 GMT -5
rr,
Atlanta has by far the busiest airport in the world. Is Atlanta the largest city in the world. Specious argument is probably too kind for this comparison of city sizes and airports.
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Post by tonythegator on May 12, 2009 12:42:08 GMT -5
What a lame argument. Last time I checked, that plane was a lot faster than a bus. Both teams are just sitting on their asses, for a couple of hours. They are enjoying the experience, looking forward, with anticipation, to the challenge that awaits them at the WLOCP!!! Don't worry. Your boys will have about 5 days to get the blood flowing back in their leggies.
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Post by athens on May 12, 2009 12:43:32 GMT -5
Gainesville - 114,375 Athens - 112,760 Athens does have an airport, but not a very big one, I am not sure if UGA uses it or not. We currently only have 9 players on the roster from FL, I guess they must play both sides of the ball to keep us in games... ;D wow, athens blew that argument out of the water Zip it, Ole Piss. ;D He tried to use false assumptions and I called him on it. And Athens' population is for the whole county it is in because they consolidated the government a few years back, it is not just Athens itself. And 9 out of 90 players being from FL is not very much.
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Post by raleighrebel on May 12, 2009 12:45:10 GMT -5
wow, athens blew that argument out of the water Zip it, Ole Piss. ;D He tried to use false assumptions and I called him on it. And Athens' population is for the whole county it is in because they consolidated the government a few years back, it is not just Athens itself. And 9 out of 90 players being from FL is not very much. hey! i was dead serious. he made 3 or 4 points and you disproved each one.
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Post by tophb21 on May 12, 2009 12:46:24 GMT -5
I will say this about this whole debate. The logistics of the game would be about like tOSU and UM playing in Cincy every year.
Hour and a half for tOSU and b/t 4.5 hours and 5 hours for Michigan. Let's just say I can't ever in the history of that rivalry see Michigan agreeing to such terms.
I guess this begs the question. Why the hell did UGA agree to this so long ago and let it continue on? I can't imagine that this is the first time that this has come up.
Someone please enlighten this Yankee. ;D
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Post by ugatlien on May 12, 2009 12:48:16 GMT -5
Again, make the week prior off equal and there are no legitimate gripes even if it is a very slight advantage for UF. So is this UF's fault, or is this UGA's fault? Maybe Richt should be complaining to the UGA schedule maker. If he has his hand in that, then the complaint should be filed in front of a mirror. Be careful what you wish for rhv. The ball is in Georgia's court when it comes to scheduling the location of the series. So far, UGA has overlooked the obvious disadvantages of playing in J-ville in favor of tradition. You better believe that if Richt gets fed up with the whole situation, he could easily convince a majority of the Georgia fans that they are unhappy with it too.
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 12:48:34 GMT -5
Tony.....my oh my. What has you nervous?
Its 1:33 minutes on bus from UGA to Hartsfield Jackson. The flight is about an hour.
That is a road trip.
Gainesville Florida to Jacksonville, Florida is 1:34. That is a bus trip. That is not a road trip.
If you don't see that it is a difference for Georgia's football players vice Florida's football players you are being silly.
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Post by athens on May 12, 2009 12:50:22 GMT -5
Zip it, Ole Piss. ;D He tried to use false assumptions and I called him on it. And Athens' population is for the whole county it is in because they consolidated the government a few years back, it is not just Athens itself. And 9 out of 90 players being from FL is not very much. hey! i was dead serious. he made 3 or 4 points and you disproved each one. My bad, I thought I detected a hint of facetiousness in your typing... Apologies... ;D
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Post by Wolferuns on May 12, 2009 12:51:58 GMT -5
What do you expect from an FSU transplant? The funny thing is that UGA bitches and cries saying we have to take a bus all the way to Atlanta then fly to Jacksonville. It is so unfair that our guys must deal with this. First it is not like they fly in Friday night or Saturday morning. They are down here almost all week. Second Athens Georgia is bigger than Gainesville Florida. I find it funny that the Gators have a plane and they Fly right out of Gainesville not 15 mins from campus. Of course I am sure that UGA is more than willing to give up the exposer to the Florida High School Athletes. We all know what kind of team Georgia would have with out Florida kids on it. They would suck as bad as UT or USCe Gainesville - 114,375 Athens - 112,760 Athens does have an airport, but not a very big one, I am not sure if UGA uses it or not. We currently only have 9 players on the roster from FL, I guess they must play both sides of the ball to keep us in games... ;D I do not see why not The field is every bit as big as the one in Gainesville www.athensairport.net/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gainesville_Regional_Airport
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 12:55:10 GMT -5
toph,
It goes back a long way. If you look at the SEC in general, many of the teams in smaller towns played at neutral sites. Georgia and Auburn played in Columbus. Tennessee and Auburn played in Birmingham. Auburn and Bama played in Birmingham. Ole Miss and Miss State played many of their home games in Jackson.
The game in Jacksonville has always been looked at as special. The ONLY incentive for Georgia is the large number of alumni in Savannah, Brunswick, Valdosta, Albany, and north Florida that geographically are located closer to Jacksonville. The tickets have been split and that is great.
When Georgia was beating the Gators butts no one said anything. Of course, it would have been quite hillarious for the Gators to complain about the game being in a stadium called the Gator Bowl.
I prefer the game staying in Jacksonville, but if I was the Georgia coach I would have doubts too. It is a friggin road game for him and the team. Only a blind reptile would dispute that. It is funny how a team that seldom leaves its state would see the Georgia travel to the game as no big deal. After all, what would they know about traveling anyway. ;D
Again, keep the game in Jacksonville. Have the SEC make the bye week more balanced and I am happy.
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 13:01:27 GMT -5
Wolf,
Check runway lengths. Might just have a tad bit to do with it. Athens is not open to jets handling more than 30 pax.
Athens 4000ft Gainesville 7500 ft. plus
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Post by tophb21 on May 12, 2009 13:03:59 GMT -5
I guess that suffices BD. I agree that for the team it is a road game every year for UGA. That's why as schools started putting sizeable stadiums on campus, I would have thought that this game would have been reevaluated a long time ago by UGA.
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Post by huntgator on May 12, 2009 13:11:27 GMT -5
Anything else to keep you happy Big? Perhaps the Gators can have a team meeting and agree to ease up on the ass whoopins...maybe make this thing a little more competetive...That 16 out of the last 19 seems a little unbalanced... ;D
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 13:12:34 GMT -5
Not with the tradition and all those South Georgia alums. Plus the students love to go to the game down there. I would guess...guess only....that 67% of the fans probably want to keep it there. It is a dilema for Richt and company and the contract is up after next year. It is a lose lose situation because if Damon Evans chooses to move it the Gator fans will whine to the moon. And of course, with us only winning 3 of the last 18 that will add to the fire. If Georgia wins this year...not very likely but certainly possible, it would be easier. We would be 3-3 over the last 6 games.
Still, I think the South Georgia alumni lobby will prevent a change unless Jacksonville does not provide the economic incentives that a Georgia Dome game happens.
I do not believe it will or should go to the Georgia Dome. Florida would pick up their ball and choose to play in the Swamp. And Georgia would say to hell with downtown Atlanta and take their ball Between the Hedges.
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Post by Wolferuns on May 12, 2009 13:13:11 GMT -5
Wolf, Check runway lengths. Might just have a tad bit to do with it. Athens is not open to jets handling more than 30 pax. Athens 4000ft Gainesville 7500 ft. plus You are comparing Athens short runway to Gainesville's long runway. If you look at photo gallery of Athens Airport it has had some big planes on it. Seems like it is just easier for UGA to use a bus trip to Atlanta as an excuse for losing is more convenient that eliminating the problem. ;D Maybe they should not have spent so much money on Walker. They could bought a team plane space locally then. ;D
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Post by tophb21 on May 12, 2009 13:15:42 GMT -5
Not with the tradition and all those South Georgia alums. Plus the students love to go to the game down there. I would guess...guess only....that 67% of the fans probably want to keep it there. It is a dilema for Richt and company and the contract is up after next year. It is a lose lose situation because if Damon Evans chooses to move it the Gator fans will whine to the moon. And of course, with us only winning 3 of the last 18 that will add to the fire. If Georgia wins this year...not very likely but certainly possible, it would be easier. We would be 3-3 over the last 6 games. Still, I think the South Georgia alumni lobby will prevent a change unless Jacksonville does not provide the economic incentives that a Georgia Dome game happens. I do not believe it will or should go to the Georgia Dome. Florida would pick up their ball and choose to play in the Swamp. And Georgia would say to hell with downtown Atlanta and take their ball Between the Hedges. Is there big money coming in from those South GA alums or is it just sheer number of people? If it's big money then you might have to keep appeasing them. If it's just appeasing volumes of people with a very moderate amount of cash flow, then I would say fuck 'em and bring it up to Athens. They'll be pissed for a year or so, but then they'll get over it.
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 13:16:23 GMT -5
hunt,
None of the Georgia fans seem to excited on here. And it looks like they really don't want to comment. But you guys seem to be in a real hover. Settle down, you need to buckle down and get geared up for Charleston Southern.
Come to think of it, shouldn't that game be played in Savannah? ;D
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Post by athens on May 12, 2009 13:18:30 GMT -5
Not with the tradition and all those South Georgia alums. Plus the students love to go to the game down there. I would guess...guess only....that 67% of the fans probably want to keep it there. It is a dilema for Richt and company and the contract is up after next year. It is a lose lose situation because if Damon Evans chooses to move it the Gator fans will whine to the moon. And of course, with us only winning 3 of the last 18 that will add to the fire. If Georgia wins this year...not very likely but certainly possible, it would be easier. We would be 3-3 over the last 6 games. Still, I think the South Georgia alumni lobby will prevent a change unless Jacksonville does not provide the economic incentives that a Georgia Dome game happens. I do not believe it will or should go to the Georgia Dome. Florida would pick up their ball and choose to play in the Swamp. And Georgia would say to hell with downtown Atlanta and take their ball Between the Hedges. Is there big money coming in from those South GA alums or is it just sheer number of people? If it's big money then you might have to keep appeasing them. If it's just appeasing volumes of people with a very moderate amount of cash flow, then I would say fuck 'em and bring it up to Athens. They'll be pissed for a year or so, but then they'll get over it. Can't say for any certainty about that, but there is a LOT of money in Savannah...
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Post by 75tranzam on May 12, 2009 13:23:51 GMT -5
Is there big money coming in from those South GA alums or is it just sheer number of people? If it's big money then you might have to keep appeasing them. If it's just appeasing volumes of people with a very moderate amount of cash flow, then I would say fuck 'em and bring it up to Athens. They'll be pissed for a year or so, but then they'll get over it. Can't say for any certainty about that, but there is a LOT of money in Savannah... Also a great line of Bulldogs come from there... ;D
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 13:24:25 GMT -5
Wolf, for your reading when bored: www.athensclarkecounty.com/documents/pdf/auditor/airport.pdfThe long runway in Athens is only 5200 ft. A proposed extension that has been held up by money issues at the State would lenthen it to 6000 ft and suitable for larger corporate jets. Georgia flew the coaches back from Tempe on two small corporate jets so they could start prepping for the Bama game...lot of good that did The troops....er players flew back on Delta Charter to Atlanta and then bussed back to Athens Sunday morning.
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Post by Wolferuns on May 12, 2009 13:30:40 GMT -5
Wolf, for your reading when bored: www.athensclarkecounty.com/documents/pdf/auditor/airport.pdfThe long runway in Athens is only 5200 ft. A proposed extension that has been held up by money issues at the State would lenthen it to 6000 ft and suitable for larger corporate jets. Georgia flew the coaches back from Tempe on two small corporate jets so they could start prepping for the Bama game...lot of good that did The troops....er players flew back on Delta Charter to Atlanta and then bussed back to Athens Sunday morning. You would think the Alumni could do something about that if for no other reason than for the good of the team. I know I may be off base because I grew up in the extinct SWC, but those Alumni could move mountains for their schools. I mean look at the pay cuts players like Earl Cambel and Eric Dickerson took going pro.
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 13:31:37 GMT -5
Wolf,
You are correct about Georgia flying down Wednesday late afternoon. I saw them leave last year while working at the USO and I usually work Mondays and a couple of Fridays. Checked my calendar and I got called in that Wednesday for a late flight coming in from Iraq and Afghanistan. So a big Mae culpa on that one.
Still, flying to Jacksonville on Wednesday for a game on Saturday afternoon is hardly like a home game. When do the Gators hike...I mean bus to Jacksonville?
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Post by bigdawgs on May 12, 2009 13:33:53 GMT -5
Some of those airport issues are not just money....environmental and flight patterns right over the university. I am hardly the expert on runways, airports or Jet Aircraft. And my retired pay ain't gonna help much with an airport improvement very much.
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Post by huntgator on May 12, 2009 13:40:11 GMT -5
Love me some Savannah!
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Post by Wolferuns on May 12, 2009 13:52:45 GMT -5
Some of those airport issues are not just money....environmental and flight patterns right over the university. I am hardly the expert on runways, airports or Jet Aircraft. And my retired pay ain't gonna help much with an airport improvement very much. That is why you elect Alumni into political offic.......Never mind The fine repersenitive from Fl Distirct 3
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