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Post by USCGamecocks on Nov 18, 2009 3:10:04 GMT -5
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. | A fourth Tennessee football player has been charged with breaking the law in the last two weeks.
Nyshier Oliver is facing a charge of shoplifting. The 18-year-old freshman defensive back was cited at 1:45 p.m. on Nov. 7, a few hours before the Volunteers hosted Memphis. He is scheduled to make a court appearance on Nov. 23.
According to court records, the Jersey City, N.J., native was spotted allegedly concealing a $110 brown polo shirt from Dillards in a shopping bag.
The court records were released Tuesday, a day after coach Lane Kiffin dismissed two of three players charged with attempted armed robbery. Kiffin says he will run a clean program.
A Tennessee spokeswoman did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
Are they going to field a team next year?
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Post by fiasco007 on Nov 18, 2009 5:07:05 GMT -5
I heard about this today, but i couldnt find a link. But..you cant blame'em. They seee Fla and Bama's refs stealing all these victories, and they want to get in on the act.
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Post by fiasco007 on Nov 18, 2009 5:07:24 GMT -5
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Post by tonythegator on Nov 18, 2009 8:25:39 GMT -5
So, will Kiffin axe this guy, as well?
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Post by nvajacketsfan on Nov 18, 2009 9:02:51 GMT -5
I heard about this today, but i couldnt find a link. But..you cant blame'em. They seee Fla and Bama's refs stealing all these victories, and they want to get in on the act. Nicely played...
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Post by huntgator on Nov 18, 2009 9:06:08 GMT -5
I do NOT concur....
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 18, 2009 9:09:37 GMT -5
This was Kiffin's words on the Felony Thugs
“After extensive and thorough research of the situation over the last four days and considering various disciplinary options, I’ve decided it’s in the best interest of our program to remove Nu’Keese and Mike,” Kiffin said. “As I’ve said many times before, we hold our student-athletes to an extremely high standard on and off the field. Our student-athletes must be responsible members of society, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated.
“We want a positive culture for our student-athletes that allows them to succeed in the classroom, on the field, and in life after college. My hope is that these two young men will learn from their terrible decision. Clearly, their actions have no place in our program.”
So, to me, Oliver is a) not a "responsible member of society", b) this student athlete must be held to a "extremely high standard off the field" c) Shoplifting does not present a "positive culture" for life after college d) "clearly this action has not place in the Vol program".........or does it?
Hey Kiff, if you're gonna talk the talk then walk the walk tough guy!
When should he clean out his locker?
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 18, 2009 9:30:52 GMT -5
One question that ought to at least be addressed is when did Kiffin know about this. On the day before the three freshmen conducted the alleged robbery attempt, the head coach made the comment to the press that the team had had no incidents with the law in his 11 months in Knoxville.
The incident of alleged shoplifting occured several days before the alleged robbery. Was it caught on camera and only yesterday become known to Kiffin or did he know about it when he proclaimed the absence of arrests? I suspect he did not know, but he might want to address that.
It is very easy to jump on a program when they go through a rash of incidents like this. It happens to most programs. And frankly, there is very little the coach can do with the restrictions on coaching contact with players outside of practice times. I doubt if there are curfews anywhere except when teams are traveling.
I will say again, if this were happening at Auburn or Miss State, very little would be said. Sure there would be banter between Tiger and Tide fans, but that is going to happen anyway. But you would not be hearing the talk about this like we have heard. Coach Kiffin needs to learn to keep quiet when it does not pertain to him. His sarcastic comments referencing the Spikes deal yesterday just continues the dialogue. And while there probably is some truth in the belief that any publicity is good publicity, there becomes a tipping point where that is no longer true. These incidents are magnified because of Kiffin's behavior.
Those that compare his brashness to Steve Spurrier are a bit off I believe. Spurrier commented on his rival's performance and coaching. "You can't spell CITRUS without UT" or "Georgia seems to get all these players but doesn't seem to do anything with them" when discussing Ray Goff. He ripped FSU for being Free Shoes University or playing a bit on the dirty side. But I do not recall him jumping on internal discipline issues with those other teams. And one other difference....Spurrier was not having those discipline issues...in fact he was cleaning up one of the more corrupt programs in the SEC.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 18, 2009 9:34:46 GMT -5
Funny you say that BD, I know Janzen Jackson was busted for weed a week prior to his involvement in the Red Rider Heist. If I'm not mistaken, he was suspended that week as well.
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Post by redstick13 on Nov 18, 2009 9:38:12 GMT -5
Further proof that Ogreron does not recruit choir boys. His words, not mine.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 18, 2009 9:39:11 GMT -5
Nevermind, smokin weed and theft do not fall under the term "incidents" in Knoxville.
You at least need to Bust a cap in a brutha's ass....or at least pretend you're going too.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Nov 18, 2009 10:09:55 GMT -5
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 18, 2009 10:24:20 GMT -5
Ok, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the bringing up of other schools (by implication) when you know you had another issue like this one. We are dealing with semantics here. I understand what he is saying, and had he not been specifically trying to compare his program with others, it would be no issue. But he simply cannot resist the urge to stick it to someone else....like a kid in a candy shop.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Nov 18, 2009 10:28:17 GMT -5
Ok, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the bringing up of other schools (by implication) when you know you had another issue like this one. We are dealing with semantics here. I understand what he is saying, and had he not been specifically trying to compare his program with others, it would be no issue. But he simply cannot resist the urge to stick it to someone else....like a kid in a candy shop. I can't really argue against you on that one. I still haven't heard the context of the stab at Urvie and UF, but I guess you are a pretty good source to believe.
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Post by CFF on Nov 18, 2009 18:55:00 GMT -5
Ok, that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the bringing up of other schools (by implication) when you know you had another issue like this one. We are dealing with semantics here. I understand what he is saying, and had he not been specifically trying to compare his program with others, it would be no issue. But he simply cannot resist the urge to stick it to someone else....like a kid in a candy shop. I don't see the difference. The jab was not below the belt. He is taking his share of jabs and continuing to have fun with it. Spurriers jabs would not have been tolerated had he not won. A lot of the jabs were at my team. I took them for what they were, a smart ass practicing smartassism. Kiffin is a cocky young man, and an out of place utterance here and there is not going to change that.
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Post by skibum25 on Nov 19, 2009 13:42:43 GMT -5
FreaK Strikes again. ![](http://i.tsn.com/i/photos/20091118/129604.gif)
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