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Post by LEE Fn TORSO on Nov 14, 2012 3:21:10 GMT -5
Folks... My UL Hombres (UL) got a ass whippin Saturday... OK. Notre Dame squeaked by Pitt... whom UL Whipped. UL loses to Syracuse... and drops to #19! And Notre Dame moves to #3. Ya gotta love the total Bullshit that is going on here.
By that logic... Ball State should play in the NC Game. Come on!
Let me see... Notre Dame could not beat KSU. OREGON, BAMA, LSU, UF, Tex AM, UGA, OK, TX, and will get drummed by USC... whom is not Top 20. Yet UL could slam Notre Dame... and is ranked 19th. I love this shit.
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Post by CFF on Nov 14, 2012 6:05:57 GMT -5
Lee, there is a flaw in your argument. Notre Dame did beat Oklahoma. They did it rather handily too. They are a good team. I agree with you, I don't think that they are one of the three best teams in the country.
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 14, 2012 8:36:15 GMT -5
I think they are pretty good. Not sure they are one of the top 3 teams in the country, but they have played a better schedule than a lot of the higher ranked teams and gotten nothing but Ws. Most people, including myself, thought that Oklahoma would whup them in Norman. But that game was not as close as the score and ND whipped them on both lines of scrimmage.
They surely are not an offensive juggernaut, but that defense is pretty salty. And I do think they would take Louisville to the woodshed.
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Post by 96Ag on Nov 14, 2012 9:30:30 GMT -5
Let me see... Notre Dame could not beat KSU. OREGON, BAMA, LSU, UF, Tex AM, UGA, OK, TX, and will get drummed by USC... whom is not Top 20. Yet UL could slam Notre Dame... and is ranked 19th.
Not sure how many of those teams, if any, UL could beat
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Post by nvajacketsfan on Nov 14, 2012 10:22:18 GMT -5
Let me see... Notre Dame could not beat KSU. OREGON, BAMA, LSU, UF, Tex AM, UGA, OK, TX, and will get drummed by USC... whom is not Top 20. Yet UL could slam Notre Dame... and is ranked 19th.Not sure how many of those teams, if any, UL could beat umm, none. Ok, MAYBE Texas
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 14, 2012 10:26:07 GMT -5
Does not compute
(Bama Logic)
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Post by goirish on Nov 14, 2012 10:35:38 GMT -5
Number 1 scoring defense in the land, have only allowed 2 rushing TD's all year, have held their last 11 opponents to zero TD's in the first quarter...holding the opponents to 36% on 3rd downs...not one of their opponents is FCS...and the number one red zone defense..yeah they arent any good. So tired of the haters but....Haters gonna hate.
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Post by nvajacketsfan on Nov 14, 2012 10:50:15 GMT -5
To address the question another way, what 1 win teams in front of UL should be below UL? I don't see any. How about the 2 and 3 lose teams? 14-18 I think you could make the argument, but you could also make the argument that they are where they belong in front of UL. What is UL's best win, Cincy? UNC?
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Post by RHVSamford Bulldog on Nov 14, 2012 11:15:11 GMT -5
I would think that ND would beat UF.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 12:05:42 GMT -5
Just keep telling yourself.. "a playoff is coming..... a playoff is coming.... a playoff is coming" and all will be ok....
At least for the top 3... then the bullshit battle for the #4 spot starts, and you are going to get those a-holes that put in a team that they "want" to be good, not nessassarylu a team that "is" worthy of that final spot just to see if their bias is correct...
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 14, 2012 12:16:22 GMT -5
Just keep telling yourself.. "a playoff is coming..... a playoff is coming.... a playoff is coming" and all will be ok.... At least for the top 3... then the bullshit battle for the #4 spot starts, and you are going to get those a-holes that put in a team that they "want" to be good, not nessassarylu a team that "is" worthy of that final spot just to see if their bias is correct... So David, basis today and this year for sake of this question, which team IYO, is "worthy" of the 4th spot.
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Post by raleighrebel on Nov 14, 2012 12:22:24 GMT -5
Just keep telling yourself.. "a playoff is coming..... a playoff is coming.... a playoff is coming" and all will be ok.... At least for the top 3... then the bullshit battle for the #4 spot starts, and you are going to get those a-holes that put in a team that they "want" to be good, not nessassarylu a team that "is" worthy of that final spot just to see if their bias is correct... So David, basis today and this year for sake of this question, which team IYO, is "worthy" of the 4th spot. good question. tough one too, and why there will almost always still be some controversy. if bama wins out, beating 1 loss uga? hard to argue. if uga wins out, hard to argue that either. if fsu wins out, sucks that they will be playing such a bad team in the acc cg. i wish fsu and clemson could play again.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 14, 2012 12:24:53 GMT -5
This is why Ive always felt what we have now is better than this phony playoff bill of goods that was sold to the CFB world.
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Post by raleighrebel on Nov 14, 2012 12:40:57 GMT -5
well, not sure about that. the old way was bogus too, you could have 2 undefeateds that dont get to play. now if you are of the mind that split titles and not having to crown a champion is ok, then that way works.
no way is perfect, taht is for certain, because you can't do it like the nfl does. but i kind of like the idea of a 4 team system. it has its problems, sure, but for me, i am excited to watch it
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 12:47:24 GMT -5
Just think if Ohio State were eligible. They are Ohio State. Could you ever imagine undefeated Notre Dame AND Ohio State getting left out of the equation?
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Post by RHVSamford Bulldog on Nov 14, 2012 13:08:09 GMT -5
Just think if Ohio State were eligible. They are Ohio State. Could you ever imagine undefeated Notre Dame AND Ohio State getting left out of the equation? This may make my wish come true. I know that I am not like many Gator fans. I actually appreciated what Meyer did for UF. I don't hate him that he went to tOSU. I don't like tOSU because of 2006. My wish for Meyer was that he was successful without tOSU being successful. What may happen this year may not be exactly that, but it's about as close to that as possible.
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Post by scuzz on Nov 14, 2012 13:30:20 GMT -5
Just keep telling yourself.. "a playoff is coming..... a playoff is coming.... a playoff is coming" and all will be ok.... At least for the top 3... then the bullshit battle for the #4 spot starts, and you are going to get those a-holes that put in a team that they "want" to be good, not nessassarylu a team that "is" worthy of that final spot just to see if their bias is correct... So David, basis today and this year for sake of this question, which team IYO, is "worthy" of the 4th spot. Not David....but I would have Alabama at #4.
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Post by huntgator on Nov 14, 2012 13:30:54 GMT -5
I agree with RHV, 100%!!!
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Post by scuzz on Nov 14, 2012 13:31:51 GMT -5
This is why Ive always felt what we have now is better than this phony playoff bill of goods that was sold to the CFB world. shut your mouth... I would rather have four teams in playing for the title than two teams be granted that right. Even though Alabama won last year they had no business being in the BCS CG after already having lost to LSU.
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Post by huntgator on Nov 14, 2012 13:36:55 GMT -5
I would think that based on UF's offensive performance over the past few weeks, the Gators would have troube with ANY team ranked in the top 25!
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Post by 96Ag on Nov 14, 2012 13:56:05 GMT -5
Just keep telling yourself.. "a playoff is coming..... a playoff is coming.... a playoff is coming" and all will be ok.... At least for the top 3... then the bullshit battle for the #4 spot starts, and you are going to get those a-holes that put in a team that they "want" to be good, not nessassarylu a team that "is" worthy of that final spot just to see if their bias is correct... So David, basis today and this year for sake of this question, which team IYO, is "worthy" of the 4th spot. Right now, it's pretty hard to figure out which SEc teams will get BCS bowls
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Post by nvajacketsfan on Nov 14, 2012 14:34:03 GMT -5
Right now I would be saying Bama, but that is assuming they win out. I honestly see less issue with FSU than I think most would.
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Post by bcsbbad on Nov 14, 2012 14:36:09 GMT -5
well, not sure about that. the old way was bogus too, you could have 2 undefeateds that dont get to play. now if you are of the mind that split titles and not having to crown a champion is ok, then that way works. no way is perfect, taht is for certain, because you can't do it like the nfl does. but i kind of like the idea of a 4 team system. it has its problems, sure, but for me, i am excited to watch it When did the MNC really become that big of a deal. The BCS sold us a bill of goods for $$$ and they're going to make more $$$ with the four team playoff. And it doesn't mean the top four ranked teams make the playoffs. 4 & 5 could be passed up for selection by #6 because 4 & 5 weren't conference champions. It could happen. rr - really wish you could have experienced 20 or more years of the Rose, Cotton, Orange and Sugar on the same day. The MNC was the last thing on my mind but watching all four of those games on the same day was CFB heaven.
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Post by nvajacketsfan on Nov 14, 2012 14:41:16 GMT -5
I gotta agree with bcsbbad on this one. Back when you had those 4 and also the Citrus, and few others, you were watching all of the January 1 bowls and ALL of them could end up having an effect on the final poll that gave the MNC to some team. Remember watching them all in the 1990 season and scream my head off for ND to beat Colorado.
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Post by raleighrebel on Nov 14, 2012 14:41:39 GMT -5
well, not sure about that. the old way was bogus too, you could have 2 undefeateds that dont get to play. now if you are of the mind that split titles and not having to crown a champion is ok, then that way works. no way is perfect, taht is for certain, because you can't do it like the nfl does. but i kind of like the idea of a 4 team system. it has its problems, sure, but for me, i am excited to watch it When did the MNC really become that big of a deal. The BCS sold us a bill of goods for $$$ and they're going to make more $$$ with the four team playoff. And it doesn't mean the top four ranked teams make the playoffs. 4 & 5 could be passed up for selection by #6 because 4 & 5 weren't conference champions. It could happen. rr - really wish you could have experienced 20 or more years of the Rose, Cotton, Orange and Sugar on the same day. The MNC was the last thing on my mind but watching all four of those games on the same day was CFB heaven. i did, but i was only 13. and you could still have the again, then the championship a week later. so is it really the bowls being that day that was so important? because if so, that can still happen. that is what i dont understand...those if you "dont care" about mnc, why are you opposed to this? it only creates more, good games. maybe it is not the grandaddy of them all pac-big matchup, but it is great football.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 14, 2012 14:58:00 GMT -5
Right now I would be saying Bama, but that is assuming they win out. I honestly see less issue with FSU than I think most would. Do you mean the same FSU that, 10 games into the season (9-1), still has an SOS of 90? Pretty sure you roasted Boise St at some point over the last 5 seasons for their atrocious schedule(s). IMO, FSU could be 10-0 and wouldnt even be in the conversation with thier horrid schedule.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 14, 2012 15:13:13 GMT -5
You would have Bama in based on what exactly?
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Post by bcsbbad on Nov 14, 2012 15:27:35 GMT -5
GT - this SOS thing - what is it based on And if SOS is that important would a team with a SOS of 70 make the playoffs over a team with a SOS of 40 if their records were 10-2 and 8-4 - 8-4 being the SOS 40 team I think this in an honest question.
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Post by redstick13 on Nov 14, 2012 15:38:31 GMT -5
I am pulling for a bowl game between LSU and Notre Dame.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Nov 14, 2012 15:46:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a UGA-Oklahoma Sugar Bowl! Of course, that is as the SEC Champs representative! ;D
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