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Post by tonythegator on Jan 26, 2015 14:36:36 GMT -5
I was pondering to myself about what the Gators might do in the upcoming season, and thought about that prediction thread where I called for an 8 or 9 win season. I came to the conclusion that this prediction might not be realized. After getting over the giddy optimism that came with Muschamp's firing and McElwain's hiring, the immediate future just doesn't look quite as good as I'd like.
First off, I don't think we will have a good recruiting class, and it might take a couple of seasons to regain our past successes. Muschamp fucked us good. He made Florida a school that offensive players want to avoid like the plague. McElwain will have to have success on the offensive side of the ball to, once again, attract the top offensive players to Gainesville.
While the defense should be okay, there are many questions on the offense. Who will be the starting QB? Will the receivers step up and be helpful to the new QBs success? Perhaps, the biggest question on the offense is the OL. Right now, there is one RJR and one RSR on the roster. The OL will be young and inexperienced. Hopefully, these guys that were recruited during the Muschamp era will be good, or the new coaching staff can do something with them.
Realistically, that 8 or 9 win season will probably turn into 7 wins. But, you never know. We might be surprised.
How about your team?
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Post by zacharyjarm on Jan 26, 2015 15:06:24 GMT -5
Most likely 10 wins.
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Post by bilogle on Jan 26, 2015 15:41:38 GMT -5
state of my team? Washington....
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Post by thatoneguyD22 on Jan 26, 2015 18:57:29 GMT -5
Buckeyes really only have one major question floating over the team right now and that is "who the hell is gonna play QB?" At the moment, I still think Barrett has the job if his rehab goes well. But we'll definitely work Jones and Miller in the offense if both are there. However, I am of the opinion that Miller will transfer if his arm is good enough to throw.
Other than that, the offense is pretty set. 4/5 Offensive linemen return, both of our top 2 RBs are coming back, we lose Smith, Spencer, and Heuerman but are keeping Thomas, Wilson, Marshall, and Vannett.
On defense, we'll need to shore up the DBs a bit, as Apple has improved but I'm not sure is anywhere close to Doran Grant's ability. Powell and Bell are studs but have a tendency to give up big plays now and then, that needs to improve. We lose Curtis Grant at LB but keep Lee, Perry, and McMillan, and at DL we lose Bennett but keep Washington and Bosa, not to mention Steve Miller who got the pick six against Bama.
So I'd say, the outlook for next year is really good. Any less than 11-1 and in the Big Ten championship again would be a disappointment.
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Post by bilogle on Jan 26, 2015 19:28:01 GMT -5
state of my team? Washington.... but seriously folks...... found this elsewhere..... Despite having three Associated Press All-Americans on their roster, possibly four had star junior cornerback Marcus Peters not earned a November dismissal, the Washington Huskies struggled through an 8-6 season without one win over an FBS opponent with a winning record. Not one Husky player or coach admitted disappointment at the way the season had unfurled. It was as if their own expectations were never as high as those set for them by prognosticators, another possible reason for Washington’s poor 2014 campaign. “Not so much regret,” Hau’oli Kikaha said the day he was announced an AP All-American. “Everyone who has any bit of perfectionist in them wants to go back and improve on something they’ve done. I think a lot of us gave it our all, but things didn’t end up in our favor. “A Pac-12 title will come here real soon, I bet.” The unquestioned fault point for Washington was its quarterback situation. With the departure of three-year starter Keith Price to the NFL, the Huskies were left with a quartet of inexperienced quarterbacks to hand the reins of the program to. In the end, redshirt sophomore Cyler Miles took the job as a first-year starter and endured typical first-year-starter struggles. Miles did not get the job done. Despite an offense that featured a wealth of experience on the offensive line and playmakers at every skill position, Washington ranked 89th in passing, 42nd in rushing and 59th in points among all FBS programs. Miles finished ninth in the conference in passing efficiency and last in yards per game. Whatever goals head coach Chris Petersen has for his second year at the helm of the Washington program, job one is finding a competent quarterback. Losses As Washington enters 2015 it does so without 16 talented players that populated their two-deep depth chart. Gone are All-Americans Shaq Thompson, Danny Shelton and Kikaha. Gone are starting offensive lineman James Atoe, Micah Hatchie, Colin Tanigawa, Mike Criste and Ben Riva. Off the defense, the Huskies lose all four starters off the defensive line, middle linebacker John Timu and a few reserves. Offensive weapons Kasen Williams, Diandre Campbell, Michael Hartvigson and Jesse Callier are also leaving. Defensive Line Fortunately, talent remains. Thanks to consecutive top-30 recruiting classes and a 2015 class shaping up in similar fashion, the Huskies have the players to step in and pick up the large amount of slack being left behind. Nose tackle Elijah Qualls has a chance to be every bit as good as Shelton. Whether he does or not, remains to be seen. Defensive end Joe Mathis won’t duplicate Kikaha’s 20-sack season, but 10 sacks are not out of the question for the junior in his first season as a starter. Look for a trio of defensive linemen — junior Damion Turpin, redshirt freshman Vita Vea and sophomore Will Dissly — to make their presence felt as well. Linebacker Washington is perhaps best equipped to plug holes at linebacker where the losses of Thompson and Timu will loom large initially. But seniors Cory Littleton and Travis Feeney return, while sophomores Azeem Victor and Keishawn Bierria should excel with increased playing time. The depth is also there with senior Scott Lawyer and in the recently redshirted Sean Constantine and Drew Lewis. An impact could also come from incoming freshmen D.J. Beavers or Ben Burr-Kirven. Secondary After a year in which the Huskies used five true freshmen and three sophomores, the team appears well equipped to field a strong secondary in ’15. Budda Baker played more snaps on defense than any other Husky as a freshman. With a full offseason to immerse himself with strength and conditioning coach Tim Socha, Baker could perform at a Pac-12 first team level. Strong safety Kevin King, rangy at 6-foot-3, will be in the same position to add weight to the 195 pounds he finished the season at. Washington is well stocked at corner especially if the transplanted John Ross continues to work with secondary coach Jimmy Lake. Sidney Jones started 11 games as a true freshman, performing very well over the latter half. Naijiel Hale, a highly touted prospect out of Los Angeles, returns for his sophomore season after seeing his fair share of playing time as does true freshman Darren Gardenhire. The Huskies will be even deeper with the expected return of sophomore Jermaine Kelly at corner after he fractured his ankle during practice in September. A few incoming freshmen could have a chance to make an impact including Austin Joyner of Marysville-Pilchuck High School. And it would be a surprise if junior-college transfer Ezekiel Turner didn’t see extended playing time as a big-bodied strong safety. Offensive Line Washington will see the largest turnover along the offensive line where it loses five aforementioned players who started in ’14. It expects a healthy Dexter Charles to return at guard for his senior year and experienced tackle Coleman Shelton will be favored to start at right tackle in his sophomore season. From there it gets interesting. Kaleb McGary, a 6-foot-7 defensive line prospect from Fife switched to the offensive line late in the season, could be a potential left tackle option. Siosifa Tufunga started four games at guard and returns for his senior season. Junior reserves Jake Eldrenkamp, Michael Kneip and redshirt freshman Morgan Richey could vie for playing time in one of the open tackle, guard and center spots. The Huskies expect to add as much high-end talent along the line as any position on signing day. Local tackle products Henry Roberts of Bellevue and Trey Adams of Wenatchee may crack the two deeps in their freshmen seasons. Expect the offensive line to be solid, if relatively inexperienced. Running Back, Wide Receiver and Tight End While the offensive line will need grooming, no such grooming will be needed for Washington’s skill position players. At running back, Washington returns Dwayne Washington as the incumbent starter in his junior season, well as Lavon Coleman and sixth-year senior Deontae Cooper, two players who earned starts in ’14. Jomon Dotson, a player who redshirted in ’14, expects to add depth at the position. As signing day nears, running back is one position Washington may be looking to still add a prospect. Myles Gaskin, a 5-foot-10 back from O’Dea, is currently the lone newcomer that could make an impact at the position. Receiver is a little more settled. The trio of Jaydon Mickens, Kendyl Taylor and Dante Pettis return as likely starters for Petersen’s offense. Mickens enters his senior season as the most prolific weapon of the bunch. Meanwhile, Brayden Lenius likely brings the most potential after seeing limited action as a true freshman. He has the size at 6-foot-5 and 225 pounds that no other player on the UW roster can offer. A trio of incoming freshmen in Chico McClatcher, Andre Baccellia and Isaiah Renfro are expected to play early. And at tight end the Huskies remain well stocked with Darrell Daniels and Josh Perkins. David Ajamu and Drew Sample are two young players who will likely push for playing time. This was a position largely under utilized by offensive coordinator Jonathan Smith and the Huskies, but has the potential to be explosive with Daniels and Perkins leading the way. Quarterback Finally, we return to the most important position of them all, the spot that will hold every eye of the Husky faithful throughout the offseason workout program. Upheaval has already come in the five days since Washington’s season ended. Redshirt freshman quarterback Troy Williams, a player who ended the year as Miles’ backup, opted to transfer while recruit Jake Browning enrolled and has started Winter quarter classes. Browning joins junior-to-be Jeff Lindquist and redshirt freshman K.J. Carta-Samuels in the competition to beat out Miles for the starting job. In what could be as wide open as any competition, Carta-Samuels and Miles seem to be the favorites. However, a light could go on for the strong-armed Lindquist and Browning enters as touted as any recent Husky quarterback recruit. No matter who earns the job, the burden lies with coach Petersen and offensive coordinator Smith to open the offense up in a greater capacity in ’15. Washington will need to be more creative, less predictable and more aggressive next season if it wants to make a run at the north division where rivals Oregon and Stanford lie in wait. As the drought enters its 15th season, Washington must concentrate on two areas in the offseason if it aspires to reach its first Rose Bowl since 2000: 1) Finding the answer at quarterback and 2) Playing consistently on defense quarter-in and quarter-out. Despite all the talent the Huskies’ defense has ran out the last two seasons, it has fared disappointingly in both campaigns. Whether they admit it or not, the coaching needs to improve to reach the team’s true potential.
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Post by Huckleberry Hound on Jan 26, 2015 19:34:04 GMT -5
Cant find it in me to care the least slightest bit about LSU this year...
Its SO bad.. That Im reading up news for my Redskins daily instead. The Redskins.. I have more hope in the Redskins progressing forward than LSU..
So this is what its like for Purdue fans... Where saturday is just the day you check on your teams box score while doing chores. So you can be free on Sunday to watch the Colts.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jan 26, 2015 19:39:41 GMT -5
Cant find it in me to care the least slightest bit about LSU this year... Its SO bad.. That Im reading up news for my Redskins daily instead. The Redskins.. I have more hope in the Redskins progressing forward than LSU.. So this is what its like for Purdue fans... Where saturday is just the day you check on your teams box score while doing chores. So you can be free on Sunday to watch the Colts. Damn! I need to watch a comedy after reading this. Sending positive vibes your way, Huckleberry.
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Post by tophb21 on Jan 26, 2015 19:43:53 GMT -5
Cant find it in me to care the least slightest bit about LSU this year... Its SO bad.. That Im reading up news for my Redskins daily instead. The Redskins.. I have more hope in the Redskins progressing forward than LSU.. So this is what its like for Purdue fans... Where saturday is just the day you check on your teams box score while doing chores. So you can be free on Sunday to watch the Colts. Damn, you must think that LSU is really going to suck balls next year, if you're betting on the Skins to have a better season.
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Post by tophb21 on Jan 26, 2015 19:49:06 GMT -5
I could see some real improvements for PSU.If the OL improves at all, Hackenberg doesn't hold the ball quite so much, and the younger RBs step up, then I could see PSU winning 8-10 games. I think the D will be solid again next year, as this year was a pleasant surprise. The schedule is favorable and they would have to beat teams that they probably should have beaten this year, which could certainly happen.
If the OL doesn't progress and Hackenberg tries to do too much again, I could see another 6-7 win season.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jan 26, 2015 20:12:45 GMT -5
Hmmmm…about Georgia, what can I say? UGA was so close last year, but as is with football, the game is 60 minutes long and needs 100% focus to win those games that are too close to call, such as the case with USCe and GT. Could easily have been 11-1 if not for an odd series of downs at 1st and goal form the 4 and a squib kick.
Anyway, with that season behind us, time to look forward. Replacing our QB is going to be key, but with a running game like UGA has, it should not be beyond belief that UGA could make some noise in the East next season. With a RB like Nick Chubb, if he remains healthy he will be the focus of many a DC's in the SEC. WIth UGA losing only one from the OL, that being our leader last year in David Andrews, UGA's Center, the OL should be in pretty good shape as their is talent on the roster that should ease the transition. And, with a favorable early schedule, our OL and QB, along with the WR's should get a chance to gel and get into sync before facing the tougher teams later in the year.
Speaking of the WR's, Malcolm Mitchell and Justin Scott-Wesley should anchor a pretty good squad with a great talent at TE in Jeb Blazevich. UGA has some redshirt talent in the bench, as well as some quality with Davis and Towns. UGA will miss Conley and Bennett and their production reliability and consistency, but one thing UGA will have is a good enough WR corp to compliment one of the better running attacks in the league.
Where UGA is loaded on the bench and in the incoming class is on D. What was already a vastly improved squad last year when compared to the same in 2013, look for this to be a strength of Georgia's. I mean, with Floyd and Jordan Jenkins returning, and Lorenzo Carter showing out once he got the starts, UGA should be able to repeat last year's capabilities and improve. With so much talent and potential talent coming in, what was on the bench and saw time last year, I am not looking for any drop off on that side of the ball.
Add the talent of McKenzie on returns, and what I believe is a youthful kicker coming in to push Morgan a bit, I look for ST's to remain in good hands.
I see UGA pushing for the EAST crown, as well as could challenge for the SEC overall with a few lucky breaks and some holes being plugged by the talent that UGA has recruited the past couple of years, this upcoming one included.
The question is, can the new OC and OL Coach, as well as the other changes made be as seamless as they wish in the transition? If so, could be a fun year. But, again, football is funny and expect some unexpected and think UGA finishes 10-2 (+/-1)
Go Dawgs!!!
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Post by Huckleberry Hound on Jan 26, 2015 21:05:41 GMT -5
Cant find it in me to care the least slightest bit about LSU this year... Its SO bad.. That Im reading up news for my Redskins daily instead. The Redskins.. I have more hope in the Redskins progressing forward than LSU.. So this is what its like for Purdue fans... Where saturday is just the day you check on your teams box score while doing chores. So you can be free on Sunday to watch the Colts. Damn, you must think that LSU is really going to suck balls next year, if you're betting on the Skins to have a better season. Look at all the coaching staffs in the SECW atm.. And tell me how I should look forward to a season with Miles, and the DC who got fired from the minor league version of Death Valley. Only coach they had with half a football brain. Is with a SECW rival. I dont know whos AD is worse.. UVAs for not firing, but giving a raise to 9-28 in conf London, Or this flippin idiot who spends so much on Les that a buyout isnt possible for 2-3 more years.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Jan 26, 2015 21:07:43 GMT -5
I think UT gets to 8 wins. This team improved leaps and bounds last year considering all O Line starters were new. 7 or 9 are both likely possibilities and that will hinge on the O Line. The defense will carry this team to at least 7, likely 8 with 9 being not out of the question. 10 would blow my mind... As would 6.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:18:58 GMT -5
California.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Jan 26, 2015 21:20:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:21:27 GMT -5
Sorry. Best I can do at 5:20 a.m.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Jan 26, 2015 21:22:33 GMT -5
Sorry. Best I can do at 5:20 a.m. Pansy OK, you get a pass
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Post by kaara on Jan 27, 2015 10:57:27 GMT -5
Wisconsin....
Well let's see, our "should have been the Heisman trophy winner" RB Melvin Gordon III is gone... We have a brand new head coach, new OC, same DC, and a bunch of new position coaches.... our DB's were horrendous last year... our QB's couldn't hit a WR if we had one..... our WR's were bad.... so that's the bad I guess
On the bright side our new HC is an excellent developer of QB's so we should see improvement there as no one graduated and we add several prospects to the mix this year... OUr DC is a great upcoming coach who showed a lot of positives on the defensive side of the ball.... We have a really good running back in waiting and we should have depth there as well.. our OLine's are historically good so we should be able to maintain a degree of stability there as well.... we also have, as far as recruiting service rankings are concerned, one of our most highly rated recruiting classes ever coming in this year....
Overall I would say we will challenge for our division again next year though it will be a tight race. I think tOSU will once again be the class of the conference but the Badgers should be in the top 4 of the conference and probably around a top 25 team nationally give or take.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 12:26:54 GMT -5
"fucked"............. is that an option? sorry to be vulgar, but it kinda sums it up quickly. That may be a huge exaggeration, but after a 4-8 year, things ever blown up.... Our recruiting class has fallen apart. when Baylor bought our 5-star qb, the others all decided to look elsewhere. I really was not that all crushed by his leaving since the lone bright spot in the horrible season was the emergence of a new QB in Pat Mahommes. But TTU will be lucky to sign 20 players in this class..... will be lucky to sign 10 15 that we 'actually wanted"...... Its pretty bad around here. Faith in KK is at an all time low. But we do have pretty muh all starters back. maybe 19/22 on paper, but there replacements also started games last year FWIW.... The big 12 is super tough. TCU, Baylor, OU, KSU.... now Texas is getting better... WV and Ok St are a QB away from being dangerous again.... TTU, ISU, and KU are all scrambling to find 6 wins..... and it sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 12:27:09 GMT -5
Everything will depend on who the qb is. The O-line is back and a year older. The PAC-12's leading rusher returns. There's a couple of decent WRs and hopefully at least 2 more coming in, including a speed guy, which UCLA has lacked. The D lost some key pieces but should still be solid.
So, who steps up at qb? Rosen the true freshman? Little Neu who has the heart and the brain, but just doesn't have the skill, or Woulard who is more in the Hundley mode, but has yet to show he can lead the team.
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Post by tophb21 on Jan 27, 2015 15:55:52 GMT -5
Everything will depend on who the qb is. The O-line is back and a year older. The PAC-12's leading rusher returns. There's a couple of decent WRs and hopefully at least 2 more coming in, including a speed guy, which UCLA has lacked. The D lost some key pieces but should still be solid. So, who steps up at qb? Rosen the true freshman? Little Neu who has the heart and the brain, but just doesn't have the skill, or Woulard who is more in the Hundley mode, but has yet to show he can lead the team. What about your other 10 teams.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 16:04:09 GMT -5
WVU returns a lot on defense. Should be pretty good there. Return the top 3 RBs and a redshirt that was a good recruit. The question (since this is a Dana Holgorsen offense) is the QB and the WRs. Not a ton of experience back at either of those positions (especially outside WRs). If they are good, should be a force. If not, 3-5 wins.
The schedule is a mixed bag. The OOC schedule is hideous. (Georgia Southern, Maryland, and Liberty... all at home). Then, the league schedule is murder. 4 home conference games and 5 away games. (Away games are Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU, Kansas State, and Kansas).
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Post by CFF on Jan 27, 2015 20:01:41 GMT -5
WVU returns a lot on defense. Should be pretty good there. Return the top 3 RBs and a redshirt that was a good recruit. The question (since this is a Dana Holgorsen offense) is the QB and the WRs. Not a ton of experience back at either of those positions (especially outside WRs). If they are good, should be a force. If not, 3-5 wins. The schedule is a mixed bag. The OOC schedule is hideous. (Georgia Southern, Maryland, and Liberty... all at home). Then, the league schedule is murder. 4 home conference games and 5 away games. (Away games are Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU, Kansas State, and Kansas). Georgia Southern might be more than expected.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 22:03:22 GMT -5
Everything will depend on who the qb is. The O-line is back and a year older. The PAC-12's leading rusher returns. There's a couple of decent WRs and hopefully at least 2 more coming in, including a speed guy, which UCLA has lacked. The D lost some key pieces but should still be solid. So, who steps up at qb? Rosen the true freshman? Little Neu who has the heart and the brain, but just doesn't have the skill, or Woulard who is more in the Hundley mode, but has yet to show he can lead the team. What about your other 10 teams. You really need some new material.
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Post by tophb21 on Jan 27, 2015 22:06:16 GMT -5
What about your other 10 teams. You really need some new material. Don't get your panties in a wad. It was the end of a long day and it was easy target practice. Seems on par with your original post to the thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 0:41:30 GMT -5
You really need some new material. Don't get your panties in a wad. It was the end of a long day and it was easy target practice. Seems on par with your original post to the thread. Yes, it was low hanging fruit, and lets be honest here, as short as you are those are the only ones you can reach.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jan 28, 2015 5:02:41 GMT -5
I believe you are up, toph! And…
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Post by nmerritt11 on Jan 28, 2015 7:04:21 GMT -5
I said this season clemson would be 10-2 so I was close...and if not for the injuries sustained in offense and poor play by Stoudt they have have been even better.
I think 10-2 is about right again with a real possibility of 11-1 or 12-0 if a few things fall into place. The schedule sorts out nicely but there are questions. Will DW be ready after his ACL surgery? Will someone step up to give the DL depth esoecially at the strong side DE position.
Clemson loses a bit of "starters on defense" but the fact is only two guys started every game for clemson on defense this season. It was a legitimate rotation at almost every position. But a good bit of that depth graduates up front. Plenty of talent to have a very formidable defense and with the offensive production and playmakers they return they won't need to be #1 in the nation again. Clemson also had 14 guys early enroll including both QBs, all the OL, and several DL.
Clemson has FSU, GT, and Notre Dame at home Tough road games at SC, Louisville, Miami
Louisville and FSU both look to be in rebuild mode. The Irish may be the biggest challenge on the schedule while you never know what to expect from Miami. GT also must replace top 4 RBs, and top 4 pass catchers so they are a question mark too.
My preseason prediction will depend on how Watson's rehab is going. Good news is Wofford and App Stte are straight out of the gate so he should have some time to ease back into the game
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Post by tophb21 on Jan 28, 2015 9:48:35 GMT -5
Don't get your panties in a wad. It was the end of a long day and it was easy target practice. Seems on par with your original post to the thread. Yes, it was low hanging fruit, and lets be honest here, as short as you are those are the only ones you can reach. Well, actually, I'm taller than the average American male. Not all of us are Shrek like.
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