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Post by Pirate Joe on Apr 20, 2015 17:46:54 GMT -5
Cal recruiting coordinator Pierre Ingram arrested in prostitution sting, placed on leave By Avinash Kunnath ļ @avinashkunnath on Apr 20, 2015, 2:06p 62
Pierre Ingram, the Golden Bears' recruiting coordinator and wide receivers coach, was arrested after he allegedly solicited an undercover officer online and then showed up at the Motel 6 on Embarcadero.
He was arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor solicitation of a lewd act, was booked, cited and given a court date to appear next month. Ingram was hired by Sonny Dykes as part of his initial staff, was moved to receivers coach and primary recruiting coordinator after the departure of several assistants, and was an up-and-comer on the West Coast trails; he had proven to be a strong recruiter the past several seasons and landed some of our best offensive recruits. His future with the Cal program has to be very much in doubt. At the moment, he is not with the program.
If Ingram was relieved of his duties, it would leave only Tony Franklin and Sonny as the two remaining real offensive minds on our offensive coaching staff, with Rob Likens and Zach Yenser departing to Kansas this past season. Cal can probably get by with the stacks of offensive talent during the season and upgrade someone like Burl Toler III to help out with our wide receiver coaching. However, Sonny will need to find someone long-term to ensure the Bears retain their upward recruiting momentum. Who knows what the next step is.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 20, 2015 17:54:17 GMT -5
Feel sorry for the guy.
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 20, 2015 18:31:33 GMT -5
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Post by bigdawgs on Apr 20, 2015 18:36:59 GMT -5
I am sure that Tony Franklin feels the guy was only "expressing himself".
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Post by CFF on Apr 20, 2015 18:44:40 GMT -5
There is a little human in all of us.
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Post by Pirate Joe on Apr 20, 2015 18:51:22 GMT -5
I am not sure I would fuck anything on campus at Berkeley either.
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 20, 2015 18:58:41 GMT -5
There is a little human in all of us. True but I've never had to pay to stick the little human in someone else. I feel sorry for kids with chemo and puppies that die...not this guy.
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Post by CFF on Apr 20, 2015 18:59:31 GMT -5
I am not sure I would fuck anything on campus at Berkeley either. You are an old man...stay away from the teens you perv!
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 21, 2015 1:29:18 GMT -5
Oksy, I have to ask, if I am a single man, no kids. no ex-wife, no "current" wife, and I happen to find myself at a strip club, and I have a stripper ask me for my phone number, am I supposed to cough it up? Just curious, after I read the responses here. Again, just curious.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 21, 2015 1:29:43 GMT -5
Oh....
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Post by Huckleberry Hound on Apr 21, 2015 1:46:45 GMT -5
Hows a stripper going to remember your number long enough to write it down? I dont see any harm in trying. But I dont see whats the holdup. Just hit it right there and you dont have to worry about finding a pen.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 21, 2015 2:45:08 GMT -5
If I must, and let's remember to take this all in stride, it was written down, pen to paper, yet, I don't expect a thing in return. But, it is fun when the game is played. "Passing out", now. Cheers, y'all.
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 21, 2015 4:00:01 GMT -5
Oksy, I have to ask, if I am a single man, no kids. no ex-wife, no "current" wife, and I happen to find myself at a strip club, and I have a stripper ask me for my phone number, am I supposed to cough it up? Just curious, after I read the responses here. Again, just curious. Your example has nothing to do with this case NCBD. Pierre is a married man who solicited a sex act online and asked the undercover police officer to meet him at a Motel 6. Pretty much the opposite of your example. In your hypothetical situation the stripper initiates the contact, in this case Pierre did. If it had gone down like your situation then entrapment could probably be argued, I don't believe he was the victim here.
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Post by CFF on Apr 21, 2015 7:54:54 GMT -5
Oksy, I have to ask, if I am a single man, no kids. no ex-wife, no "current" wife, and I happen to find myself at a strip club, and I have a stripper ask me for my phone number, am I supposed to cough it up? Just curious, after I read the responses here. Again, just curious. Your example has nothing to do with this case NCBD. Pierre is a married man who solicited a sex act online and asked the undercover police officer to meet him at a Motel 6. Pretty much the opposite of your example. In your hypothetical situation the stripper initiates the contact, in this case Pierre did. If it had gone down like your situation then entrapment could probably be argued, I don't believe he was the victim here. I think I have used this real example here before...not exactly the same, but similar. One of my best friends had been married for 10 years at the time. I thought the world of his wife. It appeared they had a nearly perfect marriage. His wife and I found out he was cheating at the same time. A few days later, the next time I was going to see him, I planned to scold him and let him have it for hurting his wife. I started in on him and he stopped me and said that he felt horrible for cheating, but there were a few things that I needed to know before I continued. He then proceeded to tell me that while their marriage had appeared perfect, it had been nearly 2 years since they had sex. He also told me that when there aren't other people around, she didn't even talk to him. He told me he loved her, but was going crazy without having physical contact. He went on to explain that physical contact is much more than sex, it was how he felt loved. It took me a while to understand the torment that he was going through, but I did learn a lesson that day. What I learned was that even though I thought he was wrong, not everything was as it appears. It made me wonder how I would hold up under such duress. It made me understand that people are not superhuman, but merely humans that make mistakes. What happened to this coach should not be in the national media, it should be between his family and whatever court he will appear.
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 21, 2015 8:06:22 GMT -5
Your example has nothing to do with this case NCBD. Pierre is a married man who solicited a sex act online and asked the undercover police officer to meet him at a Motel 6. Pretty much the opposite of your example. In your hypothetical situation the stripper initiates the contact, in this case Pierre did. If it had gone down like your situation then entrapment could probably be argued, I don't believe he was the victim here. I think I have used this real example here before...not exactly the same, but similar. One of my best friends had been married for 10 years at the time. I thought the world of his wife. It appeared they had a nearly perfect marriage. His wife and I found out he was cheating at the same time. A few days later, the next time I was going to see him, I planned to scold him and let him have it for hurting his wife. I started in on him and he stopped me and said that he felt horrible for cheating, but there were a few things that I needed to know before I continued. He then proceeded to tell me that while their marriage had appeared perfect, it had been nearly 2 years since they had sex. He also told me that when there aren't other people around, she didn't even talk to him. He told me he loved her, but was going crazy without having physical contact. He went on to explain that physical contact is much more than sex, it was how he felt loved. It took me a while to understand the torment that he was going through, but I did learn a lesson that day. What I learned was that even though I thought he was wrong, not everything was as it appears. It made me wonder how I would hold up under such duress. It made me understand that people are not superhuman, but merely humans that make mistakes. What happened to this coach should not be in the national media, it should be between his family and whatever court he will appear. While I do understand what you are saying it means nothing to me to in terms of feeling sorry for him. IF a marriage is that bad you either decide to stay in it and accept that that is the state of the marriage or you realize you made a mistake and seek a divorce. Your situation is different because he was an adulterer where Pierre payed for sex. I haven't judged the guy as a monster, an adulterer or a victim. I just don't feel sorry for him. Every action has a consequence and his is the public shame he will now suffer. His situation might be bad at home in his marriage and that's his business. I just don't feel sorry for him, he's a man who now has to deal with his actions.
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Post by CFF on Apr 21, 2015 8:11:37 GMT -5
I think I have used this real example here before...not exactly the same, but similar. One of my best friends had been married for 10 years at the time. I thought the world of his wife. It appeared they had a nearly perfect marriage. His wife and I found out he was cheating at the same time. A few days later, the next time I was going to see him, I planned to scold him and let him have it for hurting his wife. I started in on him and he stopped me and said that he felt horrible for cheating, but there were a few things that I needed to know before I continued. He then proceeded to tell me that while their marriage had appeared perfect, it had been nearly 2 years since they had sex. He also told me that when there aren't other people around, she didn't even talk to him. He told me he loved her, but was going crazy without having physical contact. He went on to explain that physical contact is much more than sex, it was how he felt loved. It took me a while to understand the torment that he was going through, but I did learn a lesson that day. What I learned was that even though I thought he was wrong, not everything was as it appears. It made me wonder how I would hold up under such duress. It made me understand that people are not superhuman, but merely humans that make mistakes. What happened to this coach should not be in the national media, it should be between his family and whatever court he will appear. While I do understand what you are saying it means nothing to me to in terms of feeling sorry for him. IF a marriage is that bad you either decide to stay in it and accept that that is the state of the marriage or you realize you made a mistake and seek a divorce. Your situation is different because he was an adulterer where Pierre payed for sex. I haven't judged the guy as a monster, an adulterer or a victim. I just don't feel sorry for him. Every action has a consequence and his is the public shame he will now suffer. His situation might be bad at home in his marriage and that's his business. I just don't feel sorry for him, he's a man who now has to deal with his actions. People often stay in bad marriages for whatever the reason. It could be "the kids", or the grandmother that thought that they had the perfect marriage. Whatever the reason, they stay. I tend to think that this is a private issue. They will have enough to deal with without having ESPN filming on their front porch. Not arguing that he made a mistake, just saying that I shouldn't be involved in the punishment, he already has a family and judge to deal with...and an employer.
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 21, 2015 8:23:25 GMT -5
While I do understand what you are saying it means nothing to me to in terms of feeling sorry for him. IF a marriage is that bad you either decide to stay in it and accept that that is the state of the marriage or you realize you made a mistake and seek a divorce. Your situation is different because he was an adulterer where Pierre payed for sex. I haven't judged the guy as a monster, an adulterer or a victim. I just don't feel sorry for him. Every action has a consequence and his is the public shame he will now suffer. His situation might be bad at home in his marriage and that's his business. I just don't feel sorry for him, he's a man who now has to deal with his actions. People often stay in bad marriages for whatever the reason. It could be "the kids", or the grandmother that thought that they had the perfect marriage. Whatever the reason, they stay. I tend to think that this is a private issue. They will have enough to deal with without having ESPN filming on their front porch. Not arguing that he made a mistake, just saying that I shouldn't be involved in the punishment, he already has a family and judge to deal with...and an employer. I have no problem with that, again, I just don't feel sorry for him for trying to hook up with a prostitute in a Motel 6.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 21, 2015 10:48:18 GMT -5
I was reflecting my evening last night. What is this thread about?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 10:53:58 GMT -5
Guess thats why Strickland chose Cal over TTU and UCLA.... makes since now...
HEy, it works in the ACC right?
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 21, 2015 11:56:12 GMT -5
I was reflecting my evening last night. What is this thread about? How some guys are such good players strippers ask THEM for a phone number.!
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 21, 2015 12:49:08 GMT -5
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Post by bcsbbad on Apr 21, 2015 12:52:16 GMT -5
The problem I have with this whole discussion - only men get horny - give me a break.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 13:04:51 GMT -5
I dated a stripper for a bit that asked for my number when I was at the club. She was nuts. Don't date strippers.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Apr 21, 2015 13:39:10 GMT -5
I dated a stripper for a bit that asked for my number when I was at the club. She was nuts. Don't date strippers. Believe me, that number never made it past the first trash can, I am sure.
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Post by CFF on Apr 24, 2015 16:22:40 GMT -5
Dismissed...
Cal announced on Friday that wide receivers coach and recruiting coordinator Pierre Ingram has been dismissed and will no longer be a part of the program.
"We are not renewing his contract & he will no longer represent or act on behalf of this University in any capacity," read a statement from the school.
Ingram was placed on administrative leave earlier this week after he was reportedly among five people arrested in a prostitution sting on April 16. Ingram allegedly "solicited an undercover officer online" and then showed up at a motel in Embarcadero, California. He was booked on charges of suspicion of misdemeanor solicitation of a lewd act. He has a court date set for May.
Ingram joined Cal's staff when the school hired Sonny Dykes and had coached the running backs his first two seasons at the school before moving to wide receivers.
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Post by dubldeac on Apr 25, 2015 1:11:23 GMT -5
I think I have used this real example here before...not exactly the same, but similar. One of my best friends had been married for 10 years at the time. I thought the world of his wife. It appeared they had a nearly perfect marriage. His wife and I found out he was cheating at the same time. A few days later, the next time I was going to see him, I planned to scold him and let him have it for hurting his wife. I started in on him and he stopped me and said that he felt horrible for cheating, but there were a few things that I needed to know before I continued. He then proceeded to tell me that while their marriage had appeared perfect, it had been nearly 2 years since they had sex. He also told me that when there aren't other people around, she didn't even talk to him. He told me he loved her, but was going crazy without having physical contact. He went on to explain that physical contact is much more than sex, it was how he felt loved. It took me a while to understand the torment that he was going through, but I did learn a lesson that day. What I learned was that even though I thought he was wrong, not everything was as it appears. It made me wonder how I would hold up under such duress. It made me understand that people are not superhuman, but merely humans that make emistakes. What happened to this coach should not be in the national media, it should be between his family and whatever court he will appear. Walk a mile in his shoes. Easy to throw stones but we have no idea why is going on in his life. People sometimes do awful things to survive
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Post by Bradimous1 on Apr 25, 2015 5:13:36 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time seeing how having an affair and getting a prostitute are the same. Am I misreading the story here.
DD, I completely agree, but he should not be in his position if he is getting prostitutes. Now had it been that he was having an affair, I agree that it shouldn't be news.
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Post by 75tranzam on Apr 25, 2015 5:21:39 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time seeing how having an affair and getting a prostitute are the same. Am I misreading the story here. DD, I completely agree, but he should not be in his position if he is getting prostitutes. Now had it been that he was having an affair, I agree that it shouldn't be news. Yeah, that was my point in not feeling sorry for him and I agree had this just been news of an affair then I wouldn't be so vocal IMO.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Apr 25, 2015 5:50:24 GMT -5
DD, I am not trying to be disrespectful in any way with my post, so please don't take it that way. Please let me know if it does offend you in any way as I do understand that personal accounts that happen in our lives drive passionate feelings on topics/situations.
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Post by CFF on Apr 25, 2015 6:09:53 GMT -5
I'm having a hard time seeing how having an affair and getting a prostitute are the same. Am I misreading the story here. DD, I completely agree, but he should not be in his position if he is getting prostitutes. Now had it been that he was having an affair, I agree that it shouldn't be news. Some people feel loved by physical touch. If he hadn't been touched in quite some time, he may have tried to replace the feeling of love with the touch of a prostitute. Not saying it is right, just trying to understand whey he would do something like this. He isn't the first person to do this, and he won't be the last. It is easy to sit back and judge someone until you know the rest of the story. Once again, not saying what he did was right, just saying that I can't judge him because I don't know the facts.
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