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Post by zacharyjarm on Mar 22, 2009 19:13:56 GMT -5
I went from scout, and they counted Pickett for another season, I just went by Scout.
I know you did and Scout just isn't a great site IMO. Not put together that well. Rivals trumps it pretty good IMO. BBall recruiting really isn't as big as football though and doesn't have 1/4 the coverage of the football recruiting.
But I do live near the state, and I hear plenty of things from the Minneshito state, and the general feeling is that he really loves coaching in Minnesota. And I really don't see leavina Middle Tier Big Ten Program for an SEC Middle Tier Program. Do you?
Historically, Bama is the second best program in the SEC. I do think they can be one of the top teams of the SEC yearly, with the right coach. If the money is right I can see Tubby leaving but I still think Bama wants a young coach.
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 20:13:58 GMT -5
Historically, Bama is the second best program in the SEC. REALLY?!?!
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 20:18:10 GMT -5
not Florida, Arkansas, or LSU?
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Post by zacharyjarm on Mar 22, 2009 20:19:07 GMT -5
Historically, Bama is the second best program in the SEC. REALLY?!?! Besides UK, SEC Bball hasn't been that great until the last 15 years. Programs like UF and Ark are in front of Bama now IMO. I do think Bama can be in the top 4 programs of the SEC with a good coach.
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Post by crimson2007 on Mar 22, 2009 20:26:09 GMT -5
Historically, Bama is the second best program in the SEC. REALLY?!?! See below... Alabama has a basketball program? When only considering regular season SEC performance, consider this. From 1933 to 2005, UK had won 823 games against only 217 defeats, which amounted to a winning percentage of .791. The next closest teams according to all-time SEC regular season winning percentage are the University of Alabama at .577 (674-495 overall), the University of Arkansas at .559 (123-97 overall), and the University of Tennessee at .555 (598-480 overall). www.secsportsfan.com/top-all-time-sec-basketball-program.htmlWhere the heck is LSU?
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 20:38:18 GMT -5
I guess it just depends on how you measure success....
how does the number of Final Four appearances rank in the SEC?
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Post by zacharyjarm on Mar 22, 2009 20:42:14 GMT -5
I guess it just depends on how you measure success.... how does the number of Final Four appearances rank in the SEC? I don't know but that is why I consider UF and Ark in front of Bama now. Over the past 15 years they have defintely leap frogged Bama due to this IMO.
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 20:50:24 GMT -5
I looked it up
Kentucky with 13 Arkansas with 6 LSU and Florida with 4
no other SEC teams have had any final four appearances as far as I can tell
I am not an SEC fan so I can only go by memory and it just seemed to me that those four programs have had more B-ball success than Alabama.
ALabama has reached the elite 8 one time and has had 19 total NCAA appearances.....which is better than I would have thought
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Post by crimson2007 on Mar 22, 2009 20:52:29 GMT -5
I guess it just depends on how you measure success.... how does the number of Final Four appearances rank in the SEC? Apparently, in your book, total wins are not as important as Final Four appearances. I got it.
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Post by zacharyjarm on Mar 22, 2009 20:53:49 GMT -5
I looked it up Kentucky with 13 Arkansas with 6 LSU and Florida with 4 no other SEC teams have had any final four appearances as far as I can tell I am not an SEC fan so I can only go by memory and it just seemed to me that those four programs have had more B-ball success than Alabama. ALabama has reached the elite 8 one time and has had 19 total NCAA appearances.....which is better than I would have thought I would put Ark and UF over Bama right now. I think LSU and Bama are about on the same level. Neither one of them are great bball programs.
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 20:55:00 GMT -5
I guess it just depends on how you measure success.... how does the number of Final Four appearances rank in the SEC? Apparently, in your book, total wins are not as important as Final Four appearances. I got it. .....you total wins is a little skewed by the fact that Arkansas was not always in the SEC
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 20:59:01 GMT -5
but if you want my honest opinion....
I would much rather have final four appearances and national championships that a lot of regular season wins
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Post by zacharyjarm on Mar 22, 2009 21:10:46 GMT -5
but if you want my honest opinion.... I would much rather have final four appearances and national championships that a lot of regular season wins As would most IMO. Just as any Michigan football fan. lol
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Post by badgersballers on Mar 22, 2009 21:49:15 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Alabama has no Final 4 Appearences, but I didn't look it up or anything.
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 22, 2009 21:54:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Alabama has no Final 4 Appearences, but I didn't look it up or anything. they don't.....they have an elite 8 appearance and a few sweet 16 appearances
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Post by athens on Mar 23, 2009 8:12:32 GMT -5
I looked it up Kentucky with 13 Arkansas with 6 LSU and Florida with 4 no other SEC teams have had any final four appearances as far as I can tell I am not an SEC fan so I can only go by memory and it just seemed to me that those four programs have had more B-ball success than Alabama. ALabama has reached the elite 8 one time and has had 19 total NCAA appearances.....which is better than I would have thought Georgia went to the Final Four the year after Wilkins left I believe...
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Post by athens on Mar 23, 2009 8:16:32 GMT -5
I looked it up Kentucky with 13 Arkansas with 6 LSU and Florida with 4 no other SEC teams have had any final four appearances as far as I can tell I am not an SEC fan so I can only go by memory and it just seemed to me that those four programs have had more B-ball success than Alabama. ALabama has reached the elite 8 one time and has had 19 total NCAA appearances.....which is better than I would have thought Georgia went to the Final Four the year after Wilkins left I believe... Yep, 1983, lost to NC State and Jimmy V
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Post by 96Ag on Mar 23, 2009 11:22:24 GMT -5
I also missed miss state
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Post by hypochondriac on Mar 23, 2009 12:19:03 GMT -5
With some of the names being thrown out by 'Bama fans (including Izzo at one point) it seems a bit like an Iowa State football fan saying their candidates are Urban Meyer, Mack Brown, Pete Caroll.... Not sure what's so interesting about Alabama to warrant all of these big names being thrown around, but then again I'm not that much of a basketball fan.
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Post by ng11787 on Mar 23, 2009 21:16:48 GMT -5
Well, Izzo is a hot topic down here amongst all the Bammers because of the ties to Nick Saban. Anyone with half a brain and any true interest in the basketball program wants Anderson head and shoulders above anyone else. I dont think Bama could get Anthony Grant without putting 2 mil on the table because he is in a great situation at VCU.
Right now, between the 3 major conference openings, Bama is the best one currently. If an interm coach could go .500 with this team to finish out a lost season, imagine what a real coach could do with them.
As for Anderson, he does have Alabama ties, having previously coached at UAB for four years and originally being from the state. T.R. Dunn is the only one with ties to the school, but the last hires for Bama with ties to the school havent worked well at all (Dubose, Shula, Gottfried). Anderson would bring change to the way teams defend Bama and could change the landscape of the conference if he has success. As LSU proved this season, it doesnt take much to take charge of this conference in basketball.
Oh, and whodem, didn't Bama beat LSU this season in basketball? Just sayin'
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