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Post by BTB07 on Oct 12, 2009 23:13:37 GMT -5
I hope so. I want the NL to win, so it doesn't matter to me who wins. If the NL wins the World Series, do they get to host the All Star game? Nice... It is interesting though. Look at the NL teams this year. Usually the DH is a huge advantage for the AL team. This year I don't think it will be. With the Dodgers they have Thome to plug into that spot (and use as a nice pinch hit bat in the NL games). The Phils can do a lot of things including DH'ing Ibanez and playing Fransisco because he is a better defender, DH Howard maybe depending on days of rest, etc.). Both teams have a guy that they can plug in there and not lose too much (the dodgers more than the Phillies in this case). You know I prefer the NL style of play as I liked the double switch tonight (Fransisco made a great catch as soon as he entered the game, that doesn't happen like that in an AL game). Don't really have a dog in the fight, so I am looking for some good baseball before the winter starts (boy these playoffs games are late in the year). Remember that a couple of days ago was the anniversary of the Jeffery Mayer (sp?) game. That was game 6 of the ALCS I think. Now we have just finished the DS. Time to get rid of some of the days off if you ask me... (the issue with the off days has to do with how unlike the regular season it is. The short series are fine, and good enough to determine the winners 5 game series in the first round are good. But what other time in the year do the teams play 4 games in 9 days like the Phillies and Rockies just did?)
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 12, 2009 23:17:01 GMT -5
Well, it will never happen, but I am not for getting rid of days off. But it would be nice to have 3-4 real live doubleheaders and that would give us about a week earlier start. We should also go back to 154 games.
Realize that none of this will happen, but baseball would benefit.
And oh yeah, take the DH and drown it in the Hudson River. Most moronic decision ever made, less the All Star game joke.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 12, 2009 23:22:15 GMT -5
Well, it will never happen, but I am not for getting rid of days off. But it would be nice to have 3-4 real live doubleheaders and that would give us about a week earlier start. We should also go back to 154 games. Realize that none of this will happen, but baseball would benefit. And oh yeah, take the DH and drown it in the Hudson River. Most moronic decision ever made, less the All Star game joke. Tough to disagree with any of that... The problem is the decisions that are best for the game are not best for the pockets of the guys making the decisions. Meaning (like you said) it will never happen. 154 games is enough to decide the season in my mind. It would change some of the records and stats which are really important in baseball, but it would still benefit the game. Think...with 8 less games we will never see a 20 game winning with the kid gloves that the pitchers are all treated with now. The DH is a mess. I am not a fan of it, and can't stand the way that the pitcher doesn't have to hit. It is the major reason that beanball wars are out of control. When the pitcher doesn't have to stand in the box, other guys end up getting hit and escalating the whole thing. Also hate that a guy can just hit and do nothing else. You know that DH's go and watch tape of their AB when their team is in the field to preprare? That is not the intent of the game...it is to be involved in all of it. Boy I am an old school baseball fan...and dislike many of the new changes (think the wildcard was a good idea to add a little drama).
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 12, 2009 23:42:08 GMT -5
I'll take a Phils WS against either team. If it's the Yanks, some sort of records might be broken for most runs, HR's, insert other offensive stat as both play in ridiculous bandboxes.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 13, 2009 7:18:45 GMT -5
I'll take a Phils WS against either team. If it's the Yanks, some sort of records might be broken for most runs, HR's, insert other offensive stat as both play in ridiculous bandboxes. Yeah that is true, could be lots of offense (even though the WS could end in November this year...and the ball probably won't fly as far at the beginning of winter).
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 13, 2009 7:43:34 GMT -5
I'll take a Phils WS against either team. If it's the Yanks, some sort of records might be broken for most runs, HR's, insert other offensive stat as both play in ridiculous bandboxes. Yeah that is true, could be lots of offense (even though the WS could end in November this year...and the ball probably won't fly as far at the beginning of winter). I think it's only about 190 down the lines at either park though.. ;D
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 13, 2009 7:52:35 GMT -5
Yeah that is true, could be lots of offense (even though the WS could end in November this year...and the ball probably won't fly as far at the beginning of winter). I think it's only about 190 down the lines at either park though.. ;D True. At Yankee Stadium I thought the 2B was going to catch a popup, but some guy with Jeter jersey in the third row caught it...
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 13, 2009 8:47:03 GMT -5
Frankly, while both stadiums are beautiful, I think they are both a disgrace. When I was at Aberdeen Proving Ground for 3 years I often went to Camden Yard. I still love that ball park, but I could never get over how much smaller it was than Turner Field. It was a joke and to me that is a shame.
Anyway, Dodgers or Phils...just beat the Damn AL like the NL has 3 of the last 6.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 13, 2009 8:53:33 GMT -5
Man that conference affiliation has made its way all the way to MLB too. The newer ballparks are 'intimate' because the fans are so close. But they seemed to make the fences too short (or play too short). Been to Camden and it is a beautiful park. It isn't as big as Dodger Stadium or Turner Field, but doesn't play like GABP.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Oct 13, 2009 9:07:32 GMT -5
maybe pitchers fair so much better in the NL than they do in the AL is because of the size of the stadium... I mean, it's only logical if the ball doesn't stay in the park, you will have a higher ERA just kidding guys ;D
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 13, 2009 10:38:33 GMT -5
I think maybe pitchers fare better because they don't have to face a very good hitter who is past his prime, or never had a prime when it comes to catching and fielding. Plus you cannot afford to leave pitchers in just to eat innings when you need to pull them for a pinch hitter....oh yeah, there is that strategy thing that is non existent in the AL.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 13, 2009 11:07:43 GMT -5
My problem with the DH is at least two fold. The fact that the hitters don't have to play the field.
The pitchers don't have to bat (beanball wars, anyone?).
Another problem I have is that the DH is usually one of the better hitters on an AL team. Being a good hitter and a good baseball player are pretty different categories in my opinion.
Gone are the days when Vida Blue wins the AL MVP (for pitching and hitting).
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Post by Bradimous1 on Oct 13, 2009 11:16:17 GMT -5
Another problem I have is that the DH is usually one of the better hitters on an AL team. Being a good hitter and a good baseball player are pretty different categories in my opinion. Ted Williams always said that he was the best hitter of his era, while Joe Dimaggio was the best player... I have to agree with him nad you on this one. *I was going to change where I call you a nad to what it was supposed to be, "and", but thought it was appropriate for this board ;D
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 14, 2009 22:25:40 GMT -5
That is good stuff right there Brad.
How do you pick the MVP when one hits .406 and the other guy has a 56 game hit streak and outstanding numbers to go along with it (that was the choice in '41) and many thought the choice was made for Dimaggio in large part because of the medias frustrations with Williams. Of course they both deserved it...
Damn the entire playoff momentum has been halted by this 'off time'. It doesn't make sense to me and the argument of they have to set the dates before for logistics is ridiculous. When the series go the full length they would have very little time to organize the logistics (but they do it...).
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Post by Bradimous1 on Oct 15, 2009 7:28:01 GMT -5
That is good stuff right there Brad. How do you pick the MVP when one hits .406 and the other guy has a 56 game hit streak and outstanding numbers to go along with it (that was the choice in '41) and many thought the choice was made for Dimaggio in large part because of the medias frustrations with Williams. Of course they both deserved it... Damn the entire playoff momentum has been halted by this 'off time'. It doesn't make sense to me and the argument of they have to set the dates before for logistics is ridiculous. When the series go the full length they would have very little time to organize the logistics (but they do it...). Williams lost the MVP by one vote... and didn't get any votes from most of the Boston writers... even if one of them would have put him in 10th on the ballot, he would have won that year. I agree about the delay with the playoffs... I think it all comes down to the advertisers on television why they don't/can't change the game schedule... SUCKS!!!
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Post by bcsbbad on Oct 15, 2009 10:11:16 GMT -5
I also agree that the layoff sucks - but the logistics involved could have something to do with it. Hotel reservations for players - planning at prep at the stadium - people who make plans to attend the games on a specific date might not be able to adjust their plans. It's all about the money.
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Post by wvuchihuahua on Oct 15, 2009 17:22:17 GMT -5
Ive met Nick Swisher of the Yankees several times. He is a local kid and played ball over at PHS. I know his mom from one of my old jobs working at the Mall when I was younger. I want to see the yankees win for that reason alone.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Oct 15, 2009 17:28:32 GMT -5
Ive met Nick Swisher of the Yankees several times. He is a local kid and played ball over at PHS. I know his mom from one of my old jobs working at the Mall when I was younger. I want to see the yankees win for that reason alone. you know... Nick Swisher is just one of those guys that, just by looking at him, I dislike... kind of like Jason Giambi. maybe I should rethink my ways
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 15, 2009 23:16:45 GMT -5
The Phils went out and got the W in Dodger Stadium 8-6. Lidge got the save.
Only watched part of the game, and Pedro is probably going to be on the bump for game 2, and Lee in game 3 (if the schedule remains the same).
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 16, 2009 5:18:55 GMT -5
The Phils went out and got the W in Dodger Stadium 8-6. Lidge got the save. Only watched part of the game, and Pedro is probably going to be on the bump for game 2, and Lee in game 3 (if the schedule remains the same). Two different times, I figured the Phils had the game in the bag only for the Dodgers to make a run. Series is far from over. Manny made the Phils pay early for not completing the inning ending double play. I have a feeling if the Phils had Hamels might have gone a little deeper and it might have been a bit smoother sailing, but you never know. A win is a win and it's always nice to break home field advantage in the first game. The middle of the Phils lineup has been in quite a zone in the playoffs. Getting a bunch of clutch hits, especially Howard.
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Post by dubldeac on Oct 16, 2009 6:32:56 GMT -5
The Dodgers "big advantage" in the bullpen didn't materialize since Sherrill got roughed up in the 8th.
But if the Dodger bats stay awake like that, this could be a very high scoring, entertaining series.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 16, 2009 10:55:44 GMT -5
The Dodgers "big advantage" in the bullpen didn't materialize since Sherrill got roughed up in the 8th. But if the Dodger bats stay awake like that, this could be a very high scoring, entertaining series. I certainly think today's game could be a high scoring affair. I don't trust Padilla and Martinez is a shell of himself.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 16, 2009 15:24:21 GMT -5
And the Phils/Dodger Game 2 is under way in the second inning. Scoreless thus far. Something tells me not for long though, although both pitchers are dealing pretty well right now.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 16, 2009 16:03:48 GMT -5
Phils strike first with a mammoth shot by Howard to left center field. 1-0 Phils.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 16, 2009 16:08:02 GMT -5
Phils strike first with a mammoth shot by Howard to left center field. 1-0 Phils. Good lord can that guy hit. He hits the ball to the opposite field with power as well as anyone.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 16, 2009 16:08:55 GMT -5
Yup, the left fielder didn't even move on that one. A monster shot.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 16, 2009 16:10:33 GMT -5
Phils strike first with a mammoth shot by Howard to left center field. 1-0 Phils. Good lord can that guy hit. He hits the ball to the opposite field with power as well as anyone. He can drive you crazy in the first half of the year most seasons with his lack of discipline, but that guy is as money as anyone in the post season not named Manny over the last several years. I haven't seen someone turn the switch on like he does come August every year. I guess we'll probably find out that he's been juicing or something.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 16, 2009 16:11:52 GMT -5
Yeah he has come up huge in the postseason for the Phils. Actually he has the most RBI in the postseason for any Philly (20 now).
Can I also mention how happy I am to be posting about a postseason baseball game before 11:00 PM? ;D
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Post by Bradimous1 on Oct 16, 2009 16:11:54 GMT -5
I've seen someone switch it off every year up until this year... but never on like Toph said
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Post by MIZ-SIU on Oct 16, 2009 16:12:59 GMT -5
Cough steroids cough
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