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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 21:39:50 GMT -5
What a bitch move....
Nice to see Charlie Strong has instilled great character in that team....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 22:14:16 GMT -5
Can't get link to work.... Said it in a press conference multiple times...
UT issued official apology and he has too....
What do you do as a coach here?
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Post by pittnd on Oct 31, 2016 22:19:56 GMT -5
I take it that you don't like birch trees. What if it was a maple? Or an oak?
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Post by badgersballers on Nov 1, 2016 0:31:51 GMT -5
Can't get link to work.... Said it in a press conference multiple times... UT issued official apology and he has too.... What do you do as a coach here? I'm guessing nothing, this isn't the first time nor the last time this is going to happen. At least Texas apologized, some MSU Safety a few years back said that MSU is going to make sure to get after Russell Wilson and hurt him and knock him out of the game, and Dantonio being the classless d bag he is and MSU because they pretty much let their athletes do whatever said nothing so hey at least you got an apology out of it, and if Texass tries any shit they'll likely get caught because the officials will keep on eye on it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 2:59:14 GMT -5
So..... The question, and it's been brought up in just about every contact sport, is at what point do you press "assault" charges or four legal issues arise?
I mean, "intent" and "premeditation" come into play here.
Accidents and injures are "apart of the game"..... But what do you do if he goes out AND DOES tear his ACL on a low hit?
I mean, you are talking about millions of dollars possible lost revenue in NFL career. Etc.... Medical bills etc.
Does it go to civil court?
Where is the line?
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 5:16:06 GMT -5
At least the student section isn't going to chant F you at him. Obviously the kid shouldn't have said this but if we are to believe that teams don't go after the qb all the time whether they are injured or not and let them know that they are there and will hit them, then we are being naive. Should the kid have said it? Absolutely not.
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Post by tonythegator on Nov 1, 2016 5:42:34 GMT -5
WTF? I can see nothing new here. It is a guy's job to hit that QB as hard as he can on every play. It is also his job to get in the other players heads. This is football, not badminton.
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 5:50:21 GMT -5
WTF? I can see nothing new here. It is a guy's job to hit that QB as hard as he can on every play. It is also his job to get in the other players heads. This is football, not badminton. Don't you know it is acceptable for ttu fans to wish injury to baker and scream F you at him, but when someone mentions how they want to hit the ttu qb hard because he has been injured it is sacrilege.
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Post by redstick13 on Nov 1, 2016 7:07:26 GMT -5
Has Pat Sr. been bailed out of jail yet?
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 7:37:26 GMT -5
TTU defenders would do the same thing if they ever played any defense or hit anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 7:49:14 GMT -5
Didn't David make some post hoping that Baker Mayfield got injured in the TTU game?
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Post by tonythegator on Nov 1, 2016 7:55:44 GMT -5
If you can't hit them hard enough to hurt them, can just gouge out their eyes in the pile.
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 8:28:42 GMT -5
Didn't David make some post hoping that Baker Mayfield got injured in the TTU game? No that is completely different. Don't you know that baker treated ttu terribly so anything they do to baker doesn't count as being inconsiderate. They can scream f you baker or tell another poster to shut the f up, no big deal.
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Post by bilogle on Nov 1, 2016 10:36:33 GMT -5
Didn't David make some post hoping that Baker Mayfield got injured in the TTU game? No that is completely different. Don't you know that baker treated ttu terribly so anything they do to baker doesn't count as being inconsiderate. They can scream f you baker or tell another poster to shut the f up, no big deal. besides..... Dvadi says he is "over Baker"..... and you can all see this in his posts
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 10:37:03 GMT -5
I will add that a team that relies on a qb as much as ttu does and throws the ball 88 times the other week he has to be the focus and the way to disrupt their offense (and many offenses) is to get to the qb and pressure them and get hits on them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:39:55 GMT -5
Has Pat Sr. been bailed out of jail yet? LOL... and has reportedly filed a lawsuit against pretty much everyone TCU homer involved..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:43:33 GMT -5
Didn't David make some post hoping that Baker Mayfield got injured in the TTU game? No that is completely different. Don't you know that baker treated ttu terribly so anything they do to baker doesn't count as being inconsiderate. They can scream f you baker or tell another poster to shut the f up, no big deal. I said that "I wouldn't care if he tore his ACL and was done"..... But i am not a defender on a team, that said the "Defensive game plan is to injure him"..... That is a whole different relem. Now it leads to coaches coaching it, other players in on it... etc.. He didn't just say it once... he said it numerous times at an official press conference. He said it was his job to stop the QB and this case it meant to injure him.... its a bigger deal than a jaded fan base not caring if he was hurt..... When you add intent to ACTION, you have the makings of assault.
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 10:43:55 GMT -5
Isn't this what you have wanted all along David? Someone giving Mahommes respect that the way to stop him is to get him out of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:46:20 GMT -5
Its not about "get to the QB"..... its not about "Pressure the QB"....its not about "stop the QB".....
its about saying you are going out to physically assault the kid. You are going out with reckless abandon and possibly end his career......
its about Texas not saying they can beat TTU fair. That they have take out a player with medical issues, who is already hurt, to win a game instead of beating them with better play.
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 10:46:44 GMT -5
No that is completely different. Don't you know that baker treated ttu terribly so anything they do to baker doesn't count as being inconsiderate. They can scream f you baker or tell another poster to shut the f up, no big deal. I said that "I wouldn't care if he tore his ACL and was done"..... But i am not a defender on a team, that said the "Defensive game plan is to injure him"..... That is a whole different relem. Now it leads to coaches coaching it, other players in on it... etc.. He didn't just say it once... he said it numerous times at an official press conference. He said it was his job to stop the QB and this case it meant to injure him.... its a bigger deal than a jaded fan base not caring if he was hurt..... When you add intent to ACTION, you have the makings of assault. You are right. The Texas defender is talking about taking him out of this game by hitting him. You are talking about potentially ending a career and definitely ending a season with an ACL tear.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:47:42 GMT -5
Isn't this what you have wanted all along David? Someone giving Mahommes respect that the way to stop him is to get him out of the game. Spin spin spin.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 10:53:18 GMT -5
I said that "I wouldn't care if he tore his ACL and was done"..... But i am not a defender on a team, that said the "Defensive game plan is to injure him"..... That is a whole different relem. Now it leads to coaches coaching it, other players in on it... etc.. He didn't just say it once... he said it numerous times at an official press conference. He said it was his job to stop the QB and this case it meant to injure him.... its a bigger deal than a jaded fan base not caring if he was hurt..... When you add intent to ACTION, you have the makings of assault. You are right. The Texas defender is talking about taking him out of this game by hitting him. You are talking about potentially ending a career and definitely ending a season with an ACL tear. You are getting on that "annoying just to see you respond" list.. I said i wouldn't care..... i did not say i'm going out to OutBack steakhouse and taking him out after the game..... If the football Gods of Karma had Baker jumping up and celebrating a TD and he came down awkward and tore and ACL, would be upset? not in the least. Its not the same. TTU did not go out to hurt Baker. in fact the plan was "Jump and deflect" when a Defender got close... not even to "hit" him because TTU was afraid of un-due flags from over zealous officials being coached by Stoops to watching Baker.... as it is, it backfired, every chance TTU had to sack him, they jumped and he escaped.. watch the film again if you think i am wrong. IF you said you were "coming to Lubbock to injure me" and you showed up at my store, i could legally shoot you in self defense..... If you said "i would;t care if David dropped a piano on his hand and couldn't type for a while".... that is DIFFERENT....
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Post by theswan on Nov 1, 2016 10:56:54 GMT -5
Ummm, what is the "hump and deflect" technique?
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Post by LaylaGator on Nov 1, 2016 10:58:16 GMT -5
Ummm, what is the "hump and deflect" technique? I can show you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 11:01:24 GMT -5
JUMP
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2016 11:02:00 GMT -5
Ummm, what is the "hump and deflect" technique? I can show you. going to need to see that instructional video....... lol
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Post by bilogle on Nov 1, 2016 11:02:25 GMT -5
Ummm, what is the "hump and deflect" technique? I can show you. this is worthless without pics, Layla.........
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Post by theswan on Nov 1, 2016 11:03:05 GMT -5
Ummm, what is the "hump and deflect" technique? I can show you. Yes please
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 11:08:47 GMT -5
You are right. The Texas defender is talking about taking him out of this game by hitting him. You are talking about potentially ending a career and definitely ending a season with an ACL tear. You are getting on that "annoying just to see you respond" list.. I said i wouldn't care..... i did not say i'm going out to OutBack steakhouse and taking him out after the game..... If the football Gods of Karma had Baker jumping up and celebrating a TD and he came down awkward and tore and ACL, would be upset? not in the least. Its not the same. TTU did not go out to hurt Baker. in fact the plan was "Jump and deflect" when a Defender got close... not even to "hit" him because TTU was afraid of un-due flags from over zealous officials being coached by Stoops to watching Baker.... as it is, it backfired, every chance TTU had to sack him, they jumped and he escaped.. watch the film again if you think i am wrong. IF you said you were "coming to Lubbock to injure me" and you showed up at my store, i could legally shoot you in self defense..... If you said "i would;t care if David dropped a piano on his hand and couldn't type for a while".... that is DIFFERENT.... Damn all along I thought the Ttu defense was employing the matador defensive strategy to get Mahommes back on the field to put up more gaudy stats. I have disliked a lot of players from my rivals in my time and not once in my life have I thought it would be ok if that guy were to get seriously and possibly career ending injured. Maybe that is why I can't relate to the "logic" you are trying to use to show how it is ok for a fan or any person to think it is ok or would be happy if a player got injured.
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 1, 2016 11:13:52 GMT -5
No that is completely different. Don't you know that baker treated ttu terribly so anything they do to baker doesn't count as being inconsiderate. They can scream f you baker or tell another poster to shut the f up, no big deal. I said that "I wouldn't care if he tore his ACL and was done"..... But i am not a defender on a team, that said the "Defensive game plan is to injure him"..... That is a whole different relem. Now it leads to coaches coaching it, other players in on it... etc.. He didn't just say it once... he said it numerous times at an official press conference. He said it was his job to stop the QB and this case it meant to injure him.... its a bigger deal than a jaded fan base not caring if he was hurt..... When you add intent to ACTION, you have the makings of assault. If you think the Texas coaches are coaching t hurt him I think you are as delusional as Baylor fans defending Briles. This kid should not have said anything but if you think that teams don't have gameplans to hit QBs during the game and force them to hurry throws and things you are being naive. If Mahommes can't throw the long ball due to his shoulder don't you think that will impact the defensive game plan? If he has a bad ankle don't you think they might expect less QB run and maybe less roll outs? That is the type of things that would be discussed by coaches. Not to go out and try to seriously injure him. The kid should have simply said the plan is to pressure him and hit him when we can to try and disrupt the timing the comments wouldn't have even been noticed. The kid without a doubt said something dumb and should be criticized for it. I don't think the coaching staff should be criticized for this though. They didn't say it and in my experience as a coach I don't think I have ever met a coach (and I've met my fair share of douche bags) would ever instruct a player to hurt someone. Of course just my opinion on the topic.
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