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Sept 22, 2021 9:39:04 GMT -5
Post by bigdawgs on Sept 22, 2021 9:39:04 GMT -5
Adam Rittenberg @espnrittenberg Great catching up with #Arkansas coach Sam Pittman.
On the schedule: "We play [Nos.] 1, 2, 6, 13, 22, already played [No.] 15. I'd imagine at the end of the year, they can put me on the selection committee. Hell, I'm the one who knows who the best teams in the country are."
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Sept 22, 2021 11:55:59 GMT -5
That's a great comment. Sam seems to have a sense of humor. He has seemed to have turned the program around at Arkansas. Good for him.
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Sept 22, 2021 12:35:58 GMT -5
Post by dawgggystyle on Sept 22, 2021 12:35:58 GMT -5
im not looking forward to the UGA Arky game, an L would not be THAT big of an upset they way they are playing. Dawgs better tighten up
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Sept 22, 2021 12:47:14 GMT -5
Adam Rittenberg @espnrittenberg Great catching up with #Arkansas coach Sam Pittman. On the schedule: "We play [Nos.] 1, 2, 6, 13, 22, already played [No.] 15. I'd imagine at the end of the year, they can put me on the selection committee. Hell, I'm the one who knows who the best teams in the country are." Those rankings wont last. I mean, I assume he's referring to Texas as no. 15 who are no longer ranked. So, claiming he played no. 15 Texas, is like Clempson, tOSU, and Auburn all claiming they have the best loss....and makes him look silly.
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Sept 22, 2021 13:00:42 GMT -5
Post by bigdawgs on Sept 22, 2021 13:00:42 GMT -5
I think he was trying to be funny.
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Post by USCGamecocks on Sept 22, 2021 14:59:39 GMT -5
I think he was trying to be funny. That’s not allowed.
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Sept 23, 2021 10:45:52 GMT -5
Post by Elapid on Sept 23, 2021 10:45:52 GMT -5
Adam Rittenberg @espnrittenberg Great catching up with #Arkansas coach Sam Pittman. On the schedule: "We play [Nos.] 1, 2, 6, 13, 22, already played [No.] 15. I'd imagine at the end of the year, they can put me on the selection committee. Hell, I'm the one who knows who the best teams in the country are." Those rankings wont last. I mean, I assume he's referring to Texas as no. 15 who are no longer ranked. So, claiming he played no. 15 Texas, is like Clempson, tOSU, and Auburn all claiming they have the best loss....and makes him look silly. The SEC is just starting to get in their season so things at least in the SEC will probably be changing weekly. There isn't a good loss just like there isn't a bad win in my book.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Sept 23, 2021 17:53:26 GMT -5
One thing for sure a bad win is better than a good lost.
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Sept 23, 2021 19:35:48 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 23, 2021 19:35:48 GMT -5
One thing for sure a bad win is better than a good lost. Depends on who you lose to. Florida didn't suffer at all by losing to Alabama. Notre Dame dropped in the rankings by barely beating FSU.
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Sept 23, 2021 20:18:13 GMT -5
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Post by bigdawgs on Sept 23, 2021 20:18:13 GMT -5
One thing for sure a bad win is better than a good lost. Depends on who you lose to. Florida didn't suffer at all by losing to Alabama. Notre Dame dropped in the rankings by barely beating FSU. True in the short run. But if ND doesn't lose in the end that bad win will be better than the good loss. No doubt though, in the near term, the Gator loss helped them.
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Sept 23, 2021 20:34:23 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 23, 2021 20:34:23 GMT -5
A few years ago, Alabama's loss to Auburn helped them tremendously. Georgia's loss to Auburn didn't hurt them at all. UCF going undefeated and beating the team that beat both Alabama and Georgia didn't help them in the least.
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Sept 23, 2021 20:44:04 GMT -5
Post by bigdawgs on Sept 23, 2021 20:44:04 GMT -5
UCF didn't get helped because they beat the team that beat Bama and split with Georgia after the playoff was announced. Until that point, UCF had done nothing to earn one of the 4 spots except win an inferior conference.
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Sept 24, 2021 1:13:00 GMT -5
Post by geauxtigerfan on Sept 24, 2021 1:13:00 GMT -5
I will still take a bad win over a good loss. A team can't go undefeated with a good loss. Impossible.
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Sept 25, 2021 8:34:56 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 8:34:56 GMT -5
UCF didn't get helped because they beat the team that beat Bama and split with Georgia after the playoff was announced. Until that point, UCF had done nothing to earn one of the 4 spots except win an inferior conference. They were the only team in the country to win all of their games. No other team, in inferior or superior conferences can state that. A team can only win the games they are allowed to play. Your logic is utter nonsense.
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Sept 25, 2021 8:36:48 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 8:36:48 GMT -5
UCF didn't get helped because they beat the team that beat Bama and split with Georgia after the playoff was announced. Until that point, UCF had done nothing to earn one of the 4 spots except win an inferior conference. And the only reason Georgia split is because they had an opportunity. Georgia certainly had an advantage going into the SEC CG, Auburn had to play Alabama the next week, Georgia's inferior schedule came into play.
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Post by bigdawgs on Sept 25, 2021 8:42:05 GMT -5
Georgia's inferior schedule but UCF no issue when Memphis best team on their slate. Right on. Again, UCF plays majors every week, they lose 2 or 3 minimum. It is much easier on you to play one big game the whole year than playing 10 FBS teams with ND and Auburn on the road at their places. So stop your silliness. Scott Frost can tell you the difference. Give him a buzz. Try Mike Norvell if you want. It is a joke. UCF was a damn good team but they were not even in the same zip code as Bama. And no, you cannot compare scores.
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Sept 25, 2021 8:46:40 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 8:46:40 GMT -5
Georgia's inferior schedule but UCF no issue when Memphis best team on their slate. Right on. Again, UCF plays majors every week, they lose 2 or 3 minimum. It is much easier on you to play one big game the whole year than playing 10 FBS teams with ND and Auburn on the road at their places. So stop your silliness. Scott Frost can tell you the difference. Give him a buzz. Try Mike Norvell if you want. It is a joke. UCF was a damn good team but they were not even in the same zip code as Bama. And no, you cannot compare scores. Blah blah blah. You don't know what each game is going to bring. A team can only play the games on their schedule. UCF earned an opportunity and was denied by this exclusive club of what is supposed to be an amateur sport. Nick Saban had success at a G5 school and moved to P5. Seemed to work for him. Many other coaches have. Each situation is different. As far as zip codes, Auburn beat Bama, UCF beat Auburn. That at least lands them in the zip code.
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Sept 25, 2021 8:56:43 GMT -5
Post by bigdawgs on Sept 25, 2021 8:56:43 GMT -5
The two best cases are extremely clear. Utah won 10 games in 2010. They joined the PAC 12 and won 8, 5, 5 and 8. And the PAC 12 ain't the Big Ten or SEC.
TCU won 11 games in 2011. The joined the Big 12 and won 7 and then 4. They then got better in a hurry and were Big 12 co champs in 2014. TCU, along with Boise and Utah were the absolute standard bearers for the Group of 5 type conferences.
There is a tremendous difference between winning a given game as opposed to playing even average Power 5 teams each week. Yes, they are all FBS. No, they shouldn't be.
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Sept 25, 2021 9:58:09 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 9:58:09 GMT -5
The two best cases are extremely clear. Utah won 10 games in 2010. They joined the PAC 12 and won 8, 5, 5 and 8. And the PAC 12 ain't the Big Ten or SEC. TCU won 11 games in 2011. The joined the Big 12 and won 7 and then 4. They then got better in a hurry and were Big 12 co champs in 2014. TCU, along with Boise and Utah were the absolute standard bearers for the Group of 5 type conferences. There is a tremendous difference between winning a given game as opposed to playing even average Power 5 teams each week. Yes, they are all FBS. No, they shouldn't be. Mark Richt went from UGA, where he won 10 games on average, to Miami. He utterly failed to repeat success when he went to the ACC. Does that mean that the ACC has superior team quality? Jimbo Fisher has had success in both, but it is my guess that the situation was different. Several coaches have had success in the NFL but failed to repeat it in CFB. Is that because CFB has superior talent? Or could it be that situations are different. Why didn't you use Chris Petersen as an example? Houston Nutt had a pretty good amount of success when he left Boise State to coach at Arkansas. Also during that time, neither Auburn nor Alabama was that good, the class of the SEC was Tennessee and Florida then. Don't be a knucklehead, I understand that there is a talent gap, but the lack of opportunity has created that gap. If given the same opportunity to participate at the party, they could have a hit. Student is listed before athlete for a reason. They are students first. Why do you desire to deny opportunity to every student-athlete based upon their performance?
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Sept 25, 2021 10:07:02 GMT -5
Post by tonythegator on Sept 25, 2021 10:07:02 GMT -5
The two best cases are extremely clear. Utah won 10 games in 2010. They joined the PAC 12 and won 8, 5, 5 and 8. And the PAC 12 ain't the Big Ten or SEC. TCU won 11 games in 2011. The joined the Big 12 and won 7 and then 4. They then got better in a hurry and were Big 12 co champs in 2014. TCU, along with Boise and Utah were the absolute standard bearers for the Group of 5 type conferences. There is a tremendous difference between winning a given game as opposed to playing even average Power 5 teams each week. Yes, they are all FBS. No, they shouldn't be. Mark Richt went from UGA, where he won 10 games on average, to Miami. He utterly failed to repeat success when he went to the ACC. Does that mean that the ACC has superior team quality? Jimbo Fisher has had success in both, but it is my guess that the situation was different. Several coaches have had success in the NFL but failed to repeat it in CFB. Is that because CFB has superior talent? Or could it be that situations are different. Why didn't you use Chris Petersen as an example? Houston Nutt had a pretty good amount of success when he left Boise State to coach at Arkansas. Also during that time, neither Auburn nor Alabama was that good, the class of the SEC was Tennessee and Florida then. Don't be a knucklehead, I understand that there is a talent gap, but the lack of opportunity has created that gap. If given the same opportunity to participate at the party, they could have a hit. Student is listed before athlete for a reason. They are students first. Why do you desire to deny opportunity to every student-athlete based upon their performance? Where the fuck have you been? Do you really believe that statement you just made?
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Sept 25, 2021 10:08:59 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 10:08:59 GMT -5
Mark Richt went from UGA, where he won 10 games on average, to Miami. He utterly failed to repeat success when he went to the ACC. Does that mean that the ACC has superior team quality? Jimbo Fisher has had success in both, but it is my guess that the situation was different. Several coaches have had success in the NFL but failed to repeat it in CFB. Is that because CFB has superior talent? Or could it be that situations are different. Why didn't you use Chris Petersen as an example? Houston Nutt had a pretty good amount of success when he left Boise State to coach at Arkansas. Also during that time, neither Auburn nor Alabama was that good, the class of the SEC was Tennessee and Florida then. Don't be a knucklehead, I understand that there is a talent gap, but the lack of opportunity has created that gap. If given the same opportunity to participate at the party, they could have a hit. Student is listed before athlete for a reason. They are students first. Why do you desire to deny opportunity to every student-athlete based upon their performance? Where the fuck have you been? Do you really believe that statement you just made? They should be. It shouldn't be about pleasing some 60+ year old men and what they think it should be.
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Sept 25, 2021 10:18:03 GMT -5
Post by tonythegator on Sept 25, 2021 10:18:03 GMT -5
Where the fuck have you been? Do you really believe that statement you just made? They should be. It shouldn't be about pleasing some 60+ year old men and what they think it should be. If they were REALLY "students", they would take advantage of the education that is offered, rather that crying to be paid for playing. If they were really students, they wouldn't need "special help" to assist them in barely meeting academic requirements. If they were really students, they would be able to read above 5th grade ability, BEFORE they got to college!!
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Sept 25, 2021 11:07:03 GMT -5
Post by geauxtigerfan on Sept 25, 2021 11:07:03 GMT -5
Students first ended a long time ago. The college presidents always complained about too much playing time for the athlete student - then increased the number of games from 10 to 11 to 12 and added a championship game and currently one or two more games for those in the playoffs.
Weak arse excuse.
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Sept 25, 2021 11:45:47 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 11:45:47 GMT -5
They should be. It shouldn't be about pleasing some 60+ year old men and what they think it should be. If they were REALLY "students", they would take advantage of the education that is offered, rather that crying to be paid for playing. If they were really students, they wouldn't need "special help" to assist them in barely meeting academic requirements. If they were really students, they would be able to read above 5th grade ability, BEFORE they got to college!! My daughter is a student at Tennessee. She got paid for two internships. How is that different than paying student-athletes that play in a multi-billion dollar sport where many of the coaches are making $5 million or more? I agree, they should meet requirements to be in college and if they don't, they shouldn't play. Before you mention the NIL, it is already out of control. Another way to keep good players from going to smaller teams.
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Sept 25, 2021 11:47:46 GMT -5
Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 11:47:46 GMT -5
Students first ended a long time ago. The college presidents always complained about too much playing time for the athlete student - then increased the number of games from 10 to 11 to 12 and added a championship game and currently one or two more games for those in the playoffs. Weak arse excuse. Baseball, basketball, hockey, lacrosse... all have playoffs. All have added games. All require the player to be enrolled as a student.
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Sept 25, 2021 12:44:03 GMT -5
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Sept 25, 2021 12:44:03 GMT -5
Students first ended a long time ago. The college presidents always complained about too much playing time for the athlete student - then increased the number of games from 10 to 11 to 12 and added a championship game and currently one or two more games for those in the playoffs. Weak arse excuse. Baseball, basketball, hockey, lacrosse... all have playoffs. All have added games. All require the player to be enrolled as a student. I don't disagree with you but for years the college presidents were against more football games, then big time TV money entered the picture. And that changed the whole landscape of college football.
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Post by CFF on Sept 25, 2021 12:59:42 GMT -5
Baseball, basketball, hockey, lacrosse... all have playoffs. All have added games. All require the player to be enrolled as a student. I don't disagree with you but for years the college presidents were against more football games, then big time TV money entered the picture. And that changed the whole landscape of college football. I would like to see the sport get back to a point where the spirit of competition and not money was not the most important thing about the game.
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