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Post by CFF on Dec 3, 2023 10:24:26 GMT -5
Obvious missed holding call that impacted the play and game result... My eyes saw that. Assuming we are speaking of FSU getting lefto out, how about a conference comparison head to head? 10 games, 6 won by the ACC. Out of 3 games, only 1 SEC-W team was victorious against an ACC foe. See my post above. But mine was first! SEC Speed!
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Post by tonythegator on Dec 3, 2023 10:28:33 GMT -5
ESPN projecting Bama at 4, UGA at 5, and FSU at 6. Would not surprise me. If they use that logic, which I guess would be best teams are simply the "best" teams then they should have gone ahead and put Oregon and Ohio State ahead of them as well. What I saw last night, they would "in all likelihood beat this team without Jordan Travis. And my gut says an Alabama Michigan game sounds a lot more attractive than an FSU Michigan game. The committee would be setting a significant precedent, but then again what does precedent mean for a sytem that gets completely changed next year. Herby and Klatt have both been adamant in saying the 4 best teams. Yet both had Oregon and Georgia in that mix. Might be that this year we have 8 "best" teams with a healthy FSU. But 3 of those teams are different...they are perfect conference champs. Somehow, someway, deserving must be part of the equation. That settles it, then. Liberty is an undefeated conference champ. They should be the 4th team. Right?
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Post by CFF on Dec 3, 2023 10:35:26 GMT -5
Would not surprise me. If they use that logic, which I guess would be best teams are simply the "best" teams then they should have gone ahead and put Oregon and Ohio State ahead of them as well. What I saw last night, they would "in all likelihood beat this team without Jordan Travis. And my gut says an Alabama Michigan game sounds a lot more attractive than an FSU Michigan game. The committee would be setting a significant precedent, but then again what does precedent mean for a sytem that gets completely changed next year. Herby and Klatt have both been adamant in saying the 4 best teams. Yet both had Oregon and Georgia in that mix. Might be that this year we have 8 "best" teams with a healthy FSU. But 3 of those teams are different...they are perfect conference champs. Somehow, someway, deserving must be part of the equation. That settles it, then. Liberty is an undefeated conference champ. They should be the 4th team. Right? I agree. That is another argument though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 10:37:57 GMT -5
See my post above. But mine was first! SEC Speed! Oh absolutely. I was just laughing because we were both thinking the same thing at the same time.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 11:16:32 GMT -5
Doesn't the committee choose the four best teams? Eye test has to be one of the criteria in choosing teams. FSU is not the team that it was before Jordan Travis got hurt. So IMO if FSU is picked - probably be a blow out game. Is that what we want? First I would take the Dawgs over Texas. Then what to do with Bama and Texas. Heck the only way we are going to get a non SEC champ is to leave out the SEC teams.
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Post by theswan on Dec 3, 2023 11:20:09 GMT -5
And let's not forget this: SEC vs. ACC: 4-6 SEC vs. all P5s: 7-9 ACC vs. all P5s: 10-9 The others: B12: 6-6 B1G: 5-8 P12: 7-3 I thought what conferences do matter. I guess that only applies when the SEC and the B1g aren't sucking. I think this matters as well. Alabama 85-59 Ohio State 82-62 Texas 81-63 UGA 75-68 Washington 75-69 Michigan 73-71 Oregon 72-72 FSU 67-76
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Post by tonythegator on Dec 3, 2023 11:25:05 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 11:28:20 GMT -5
And let's not forget this: SEC vs. ACC: 4-6 SEC vs. all P5s: 7-9 ACC vs. all P5s: 10-9 The others: B12: 6-6 B1G: 5-8 P12: 7-3 I thought what conferences do matter. I guess that only applies when the SEC and the B1g aren't sucking. I think this matters as well. Alabama 85-59 Ohio State 82-62 Texas 81-63 UGA 75-68 Washington 75-69 Michigan 73-71 Oregon 72-72 FSU 67-76 You would think, but as pointed out on another thread, since the SEC only plays 8 IC games those numbers are skewed.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 11:58:49 GMT -5
Michigan and Washington Texas Remember the Alamo Bama or Dawgs
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:03:48 GMT -5
Michigan and Washington Texas Remember the Alamo Bama or Dawgs LOL. So, the regular season doesn't matter. I mean, I get it- FSU beat your team 2 years in a row, but get over it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:16:16 GMT -5
Think about it this way- it was bad enough when a 1 loss team was awarded the National Championship over an undefeated G5 team, but how are you possibly going to justify 1 loss Bama winning the NC over an undefeated FSU? There is no fucking way.
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Post by tonythegator on Dec 3, 2023 12:24:04 GMT -5
Think about it this way- it was bad enough when a 1 loss team was awarded the National Championship over an undefeated G5 team, but how are you possibly going to justify 1 loss Bama winning the NC over an undefeated FSU? There is no fucking way. Well, by this statement, I assume you think Liberty should be in the playoff. Is that correct?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:27:02 GMT -5
Bama in. What a fucking joke.
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Post by tonythegator on Dec 3, 2023 12:28:44 GMT -5
Bama in. What a fucking joke. Was that a joke yesterday afternoon?
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Post by bilogle on Dec 3, 2023 12:31:51 GMT -5
Bama in. What a fucking joke. I agree... UDUB Mich Texas FSU should be in... the ESS EEE SEE not so much
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:36:34 GMT -5
ESPN cracking me up.
ESPN: This isn't about who deserves to be in. Also ESPN: You can't have a playoff without the SEC Champ because of what they have done in the past.
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Post by CFF on Dec 3, 2023 12:38:46 GMT -5
It always works itself out...not.
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Post by tonythegator on Dec 3, 2023 12:39:10 GMT -5
Bama in. What a fucking joke. Nice deflection. So, if an undefeated conference champion like FSU should be in the playoff over Bama, shouldn't an undefeated conference champion like Liberty be in over Texas? I'll wait for your next deflection.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:41:52 GMT -5
Bama in. What a fucking joke. Nice deflection. So, if an undefeated conference champion like FSU should be in the playoff over Bama, shouldn't an undefeated conference champion like Liberty be in over Texas? I'll wait for your next deflection. I'm not deflecting, genius. I was not responding to you, which is something completely different. In case you missed it, I don't respond to any of your posts, because frankly, I have zero interest in engaging with someone like you. Now, do what you do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:42:34 GMT -5
It always works itself out...not. Oh it does- in favor of the B1G and the SEC.
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Post by pittnd on Dec 3, 2023 12:43:31 GMT -5
ESPN can chat all they want about injuries and other bullshit. What it comes down to is money. Just say it Reese Davis…we wanted Alabama in because we will make more money if they are in the playoff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:46:26 GMT -5
So 1 team that needed to cheat to win games, and a second team with a loss over an undefeated ACC Champ.
Yeah, this shit is totally legit.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 12:47:18 GMT -5
Michigan and Washington Texas Remember the Alamo Bama or Dawgs LOL. So, the regular season doesn't matter. I mean, I get it- FSU beat your team 2 years in a row, but get over it. You need to get over it - Bama's in.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 12:48:46 GMT -5
LOL. So, the regular season doesn't matter. I mean, I get it- FSU beat your team 2 years in a row, but get over it. You need to get over it - Bama's in. LOL. You are hilarious.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 12:50:27 GMT -5
FSU losing Jordan Travis did it for them. Just not the same team as before. That was my point and it proved to be right.
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Post by tonythegator on Dec 3, 2023 12:52:11 GMT -5
It won't happen, but I would absolutely have Washington seeded 1. Washington Michigan FSU Texas Once again, you and the rest of the guys here prove me wrong. Oh, wait.......................
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Post by MtnTiger on Dec 3, 2023 12:52:29 GMT -5
FSU losing Jordan Travis did it for them. Just not the same team as before. That was my point and it proved to be right. Even if it was wrong.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 12:52:44 GMT -5
If Bama wins it all - who's right in picking them. At least next year the argument won't be as strong for selecting the 12th team for the playoffs.
I think the committee is right - the four best teams.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 12:53:33 GMT -5
You need to get over it - Bama's in. LOL. You are hilarious. So are you Daniel.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 3, 2023 12:53:54 GMT -5
FSU losing Jordan Travis did it for them. Just not the same team as before. That was my point and it proved to be right. Even if it was wrong. Wrong in your mind.
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