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Post by badgersballers on Nov 21, 2010 3:13:07 GMT -5
Apparently, the Brewers are trying to work out a contract with him that would give him 20 million per year. Hope it doesn't work out as it would be a death sentence for a Franchise like the Brewers. Trade him and get some pitching and the team could compete for the NL Central potentially.
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Post by BTB07 on Nov 21, 2010 9:49:09 GMT -5
I agree 100%.
Smaller market teams cannot commit that much money to one guy because it kills the rest of the roster.
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Post by badgersballers on Nov 21, 2010 17:23:13 GMT -5
Especially since the Brewers actually have good minor league position players that could replace his production. Trade him to Oakland and get some good pitchers, and move Gamel to first.
A pitching staff of Gio Gonzales, Gallardo, and Wolf would be a decent 1-2-3 that could keep them competitive in the Central. Apparently, they might also target Grienke, not sure about that either.
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Post by MIZ-SIU on Nov 24, 2010 13:58:27 GMT -5
I'm calling it now. Greinke's great season will be his only great season. He is such a headcase
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 16, 2010 1:34:50 GMT -5
I got to talk to the Brewers beat writer a few days ago. He told me the great news....Fielder is basically unsignable, good we need the pitching.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 16, 2010 11:26:36 GMT -5
wouldn't the signing of Fielder bring the organization more money then spending... I think small market teams need someone like this to bring in the money to pay for the rest of the team... this could be way off the mark, but how much do you think he brings to the team? Having someone like him brings people to the park. Plus he IS the jersey that most buy... especially if you can get "pink hats" to jump on the band wagon.
just an opposing thought
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Post by BTB07 on Dec 16, 2010 11:33:44 GMT -5
Good point Brad.
I think however that small market teams need guys signed for lesser amounts that do the same thing. (see Ryan Braun). Paid as a superstar, but not a guy who asks to be paid top dollar at a big money position (like Fielder at 1B).
So the Reds signing Jay Bruce would be a better example of paying a guy and reaping more than you have signed. A good sized contract, but not near the top of the league salaries.
I don't know, just sinking that much money into one player has proven disasterous in past no matter how good the player (see A-Rod in Texas, Griffey in Cincy, Sosa in Chicago, Bonds in SF, etc.)
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 16, 2010 11:38:35 GMT -5
as well good points... I am used to Boston, where we didn't have that big name last year, and ownership paid the price for it... I am sure they are hoping that their big signings will get ratings back up... as well as sales of things like jerseys and shirts...
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 16, 2010 12:54:27 GMT -5
wouldn't the signing of Fielder bring the organization more money then spending... I think small market teams need someone like this to bring in the money to pay for the rest of the team... this could be way off the mark, but how much do you think he brings to the team? Having someone like him brings people to the park. Plus he IS the jersey that most buy... especially if you can get "pink hats" to jump on the band wagon. just an opposing thought It might, but they can't do that. They can't give 25 million to one guy, and then try and build the rest of their team by giving 55 million to the rest of the team. It could hurt them a little bit at ticket sales, but even the past two seasons when the Brewers have been a below .500 team they had over 3 million fans come to games. I still think the team will be okay at ticket sales, and trading Fielder will allow them to improve their rotation even more. If they have a rotation of Gallardo, a #2 pitcher, Marcum, Wolf, and Parra they can compete in the Central.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 16, 2010 13:30:10 GMT -5
wouldn't the signing of Fielder bring the organization more money then spending... I think small market teams need someone like this to bring in the money to pay for the rest of the team... this could be way off the mark, but how much do you think he brings to the team? Having someone like him brings people to the park. Plus he IS the jersey that most buy... especially if you can get "pink hats" to jump on the band wagon. just an opposing thought It might, but they can't do that. They can't give 25 million to one guy, and then try and build the rest of their team by giving 55 million to the rest of the team. It could hurt them a little bit at ticket sales, but even the past two seasons when the Brewers have been a below .500 team they had over 3 million fans come to games. I still think the team will be okay at ticket sales, and trading Fielder will allow them to improve their rotation even more. If they have a rotation of Gallardo, a #2 pitcher, Marcum, Wolf, and Parra they can compete in the Central. I can agree with that... I was just offering up an opposing view... that is probably much more suited towards larger market teams that can not only take the chance, but build around it
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 16, 2010 15:21:26 GMT -5
Yes it is. Anyways I'm guessing he'll be traded to the White Sox, Dodgers or the Giants, and hopefully they get a deal done soon.
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Post by dawgggystyle on Dec 16, 2010 15:24:04 GMT -5
Yes it is. Anyways I'm guessing he'll be traded to the White Sox, Dodgers or the Giants, and hopefully they get a deal done soon. Not traded to the Cubs ??
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Post by BTB07 on Dec 16, 2010 15:36:01 GMT -5
Yes it is. Anyways I'm guessing he'll be traded to the White Sox, Dodgers or the Giants, and hopefully they get a deal done soon. White Sox don't seem like an option signing Konerko and Adam Dunn. The Dodgers situation with the McCourts likely keeps them out of a big bid like this. Maybe they could trade him to Atlanta, maybe the Rangers looking to add a power guy with the Cliff Lee money. Probably best to trade him at the beginning of the season (actually before) in order for the team to get the most value and give up the most in a trade for the Brewers.
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Post by GoBigRed203 on Dec 16, 2010 15:37:46 GMT -5
Yes it is. Anyways I'm guessing he'll be traded to the White Sox, Dodgers or the Giants, and hopefully they get a deal done soon. Not traded to the Cubs ?? I would hope not
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 16, 2010 17:01:11 GMT -5
Yes it is. Anyways I'm guessing he'll be traded to the White Sox, Dodgers or the Giants, and hopefully they get a deal done soon. White Sox don't seem like an option signing Konerko and Adam Dunn. The Dodgers situation with the McCourts likely keeps them out of a big bid like this. Maybe they could trade him to Atlanta, maybe the Rangers looking to add a power guy with the Cliff Lee money. Probably best to trade him at the beginning of the season (actually before) in order for the team to get the most value and give up the most in a trade for the Brewers. They were in talks with the Dodgers over the Winter Meetings. Apparently the deal was Fielder for Loney, and Broxton. If they do that, I'll give up on the season because they don't need another 1B, and they don't need a closer. The White Sox were the one team that really made a push for Fielder last year so we'll see.
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Post by zacharyjarm on Dec 16, 2010 19:15:29 GMT -5
He isn't worth that much as he will see a sharp decline in his stats due to his conditioning. His father experienced the same thing.
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 16, 2010 20:18:46 GMT -5
He isn't worth that much as he will see a sharp decline in his stats due to his conditioning. His father experienced the same thing. No he won't, at least not for a few more years. The reason he isn't worth much is because he has 1 year left on his contract.
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Post by BTB07 on Dec 16, 2010 20:28:40 GMT -5
He isn't worth that much as he will see a sharp decline in his stats due to his conditioning. His father experienced the same thing. No he won't, at least not for a few more years. The reason he isn't worth much is because he has 1 year left on his contract. Agreed BB. They need to get rid of him so a team will give up enough for getting an entire season of Prince with the possibility of resigning him if they wish. Didn't like the Braves idea?
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Post by zacharyjarm on Dec 16, 2010 21:13:04 GMT -5
He isn't worth that much as he will see a sharp decline in his stats due to his conditioning. His father experienced the same thing. No he won't, at least not for a few more years. The reason he isn't worth much is because he has 1 year left on his contract. I say he has 3 maybe 4 years left of top flight hitting. I would trade him as well to get more for him.
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 16, 2010 21:41:33 GMT -5
I don't have a problem trading with Atlanta, I just haven't heard anything about a potential trade with them.
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Post by BTB07 on Dec 16, 2010 22:05:50 GMT -5
I don't have a problem trading with Atlanta, I just haven't heard anything about a potential trade with them. Just trying to think of a team that could possibly re-sign him, has the potential prospects and the hole at 1B. Not sure if I see a favorite in the Prince Fielder sweepstakes.
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Post by MIZ-SIU on Dec 17, 2010 16:09:26 GMT -5
At worst, the Brewers will get two first round picks for him if they let him walk
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 17, 2010 16:24:37 GMT -5
At worst, the Brewers will get two first round picks for him if they let him walk gotta do it early if you are getting that much for him... unless at the trade deadline its a sign and trade or something of that nature
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Post by MIZ-SIU on Dec 17, 2010 16:34:55 GMT -5
At worst, the Brewers will get two first round picks for him if they let him walk gotta do it early if you are getting that much for him... unless at the trade deadline its a sign and trade or something of that nature A team gets compensation when they offer arbitration for a player and he does not accept
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 17, 2010 17:12:50 GMT -5
gotta do it early if you are getting that much for him... unless at the trade deadline its a sign and trade or something of that nature A team gets compensation when they offer arbitration for a player and he does not accept Don't worry Red Sox fans aren't used to losing good players in free agency. ;D
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 20, 2010 13:24:41 GMT -5
A team gets compensation when they offer arbitration for a player and he does not accept Don't worry Red Sox fans aren't used to losing good players in free agency. ;D starting to get used to it... forgot about the compensatory picks though. Lost several this year and will lose more next year.
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