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Post by 75tranzam on Feb 26, 2015 17:43:55 GMT -5
sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/lsu-can-t-sign-early-enrollees-to-financial-aid-agreements-for-two-seasons-214512554.htmlLSU won't be able to sign any recruits who wish to enroll early to financial aid agreements for the next two years. The Advocate found the penalties handed down from the SEC via a public records request. The penalties stem from a player who signed a financial aid agreement with LSU to enroll early in January. When a player does so, the school he signs an FAA with is allowed unlimited contact – but only if he early enrolls with that school. The player didn't, and therefore LSU violated the unlimited contact provision. As part of the sanctions, LSU will also lose 21 (10 percent) of its 2015 recruiting evaluation days. The name of the recruit is unknown and the Advocate said LSU declined comment. The report does list one player who signed a FAA early but didn't sign a LOI with LSU. From the Advocate: Matt Womack, an offensive tackle from Mississippi, signed a financial aid agreement with LSU in August intending to enroll at the school in January. Instead, Womack de-committed — as hundreds of prospects do each year — and signed a National Letter of Intent with Alabama in February.
Financial aid agreements, instituted by the NCAA in the fall of 2013, allow high school seniors who plan to enroll early to sign with that school starting Aug. 1 of their senior years.
A financial aid agreement doesn’t bind the player to that particular school like a National Letter of Intent does, but it affords coaches of that school unlimited contact with the signee — contact that would normally be considered against NCAA rules. However, Womack's father said in the fall to the Clarion-Ledger that LSU wasn't using the financial aid agreement to contact his son on an unlimited basis.
Players can sign multiple financial aid agreements. Therefore, by initiating unlimited contact with a not-rock-solid recruit who has signed a financial aid agreement with the intention to enroll early, programs run the risk of the violation LSU committed.LSU's 2015 recruiting class was ranked No. 8 in the country by Rivals.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 20:44:05 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot if schools are waiting to get snacked by this......
TTU is waiting fir it to comeback on them fir Stidham...
It's truly a punch in the nuts fir programs that get done dirty by recruits.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Feb 26, 2015 20:54:10 GMT -5
So did Bama rat out LSU?
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Post by bigdawgs on Feb 26, 2015 20:58:28 GMT -5
So if Roquan Smith changes his mind and opts to go to the University of Ottawa, UGA is probably in the same boat. Does the NCAA have to think hard to come up with such bullshit? Is LSU not supposed to talk to the kid who they believe is coming to LSU? I mean how freaking dumb can a rule be? These guys must work for the US government in their spare time.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Feb 26, 2015 21:52:17 GMT -5
Players can sign multiple financial aid agreements. Therefore, by initiating unlimited contact with a not-rock-solid recruit who has signed a financial aid agreement with the intention to enroll early, programs run the risk of the violation LSU committed.
Makes perfect sense....doesn't it
Haven't taken the time to confirm but understand the kid was making fun of this on his twitter. Then again, he's a Bama signee so Im not surprised.
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Post by 75tranzam on Feb 27, 2015 5:12:52 GMT -5
So if Roquan Smith changes his mind and opts to go to the University of Ottawa, UGA is probably in the same boat. Does the NCAA have to think hard to come up with such bullshit? Is LSU not supposed to talk to the kid who they believe is coming to LSU? I mean how freaking dumb can a rule be? These guys must work for the US government in their spare time. I don't believe so because Roquan was not an early enrollee.
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Post by 75tranzam on Feb 27, 2015 5:16:54 GMT -5
So if Roquan Smith changes his mind and opts to go to the University of Ottawa, UGA is probably in the same boat. Does the NCAA have to think hard to come up with such bullshit? Is LSU not supposed to talk to the kid who they believe is coming to LSU? I mean how freaking dumb can a rule be? These guys must work for the US government in their spare time.Also this wasn't the NCAA but the SEC who handed down these penalties.
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Post by 75tranzam on Feb 27, 2015 5:19:38 GMT -5
recruiting.blog.ajc.com/2015/02/27/5632/LSU gets hammered by SEC for recruiting violation I asked UGA’s Mark Richt last week about this: What happened to all the fuss from college coaches about kids signing early financial-aid agreements (FAA) with multiple schools? It one of the recruiting’s hottest topics back in 2014 for reasons I’ll mention later, but you barely heard a peep about it this past year. “Yeah, you didn’t hear much about that, and I don’t know if it will become a big issue again or not,” Richt said. “I think part of what slowed it down a little bit this year (was the NCAA’s warning last April) — that if a kid signs with four schools, he can only go to one; and then other three are supposedly on the hook for some kind of violation because the kid didn’t go there.” Richt didn’t know what the NCAA’s penalty could be for that type of situation. And I wondered if there would even be a true punishment after the NCAA failed to address specific penalties in its press release last April. Because the NCAA was so unclear, it sort of left everybody guessing. Well, there’s no more guessing after Thursday. On Thursday, LSU got hammered after a 2015 recruit signed a FAA with the Tigers but ultimately decided to go elsewhere. The SEC (not the NCAA) banned LSU for two years from signing kids that enroll early to a FAA, along with stripping the Tigers of 10 percent of their evaluation days in 2015 (21 of 210 days), per TheAdvocate.com’s Ross Dellenger.In my opinion, it’s a harsh penalty for a confusing rule that is applied retroactively (and probably without knowledge that the violation is occurring). In an effort to make this easier to understand, let’s start from the beginning: The two most important documents that recruits sign with colleges are the national letter of intent or NLI (which binds the kid to the college) and the FAA or scholarship papers (which binds the college to the kid). In October 2013, a new NCAA interpretation allowed recruits who were approved to enroll early in college to sign a FAA beginning on Aug. 1 of their senior year of high school. Why was that a big deal to colleges? Because it allowed the colleges to basically have “unlimited contact,” including text messages and in-person contact, with the prospect until they enrolled early or signed an NLI. It also allowed the college coaches to speak publicly on the prospect. Why would a recruit want to sign a FAA? What’s the benefit? Because the agreement obligated the university to honor the recruit’s scholarship. Things really got confusing in 2013 when several elite prospects, including receiver Josh Malone, signed a FAA with multiple colleges. Malone signed with Tennessee, UGA, Clemson and Florida State – and the head coaches of all four schools each spoke publicly about Malone in press conferences before he started classes with the Volunteers in January 2014. Some coaches worried about being able to maintain the pace of “unlimited contact” vs. the competition. Last April, the NCAA issued a new interpretation: If a senior signed more than one financial aid agreement, only the first college he signed with would have the benefits of unlimited contact and publicity. Initially, that sounded like a good idea to address concerns but – as we pointed out at the time – it also created more problems than it solved. Unlike the NLI program, which is supervised by the NCAA, the FAA is shared only between the recruit and the respective college. For example, Tennessee will not disclose to UGA, Clemson and Florida State if a future Josh Malone (a) has signed a financial aid agreement with Tennessee or (b) the date of signed agreement. I could go on, but it’s clearly a big mess. Thursday’s harsh penalties against LSU will surely make many colleges hesitate before handing out the FAA to 2016 recruits who are approved to enroll early.
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Post by 75tranzam on Feb 27, 2015 5:22:10 GMT -5
I noticed UGA had ZERO players sign financial aid agreement papers this year and didn't seem to be pushing for them with any recruits so somebody in compliance must have been aware of the potential problems with this.
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Post by nmerritt11 on Feb 27, 2015 9:18:40 GMT -5
the NCAA is a cluster fuck...end of story. This is bull shit honestly
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Post by bigdawgs on Feb 27, 2015 9:31:38 GMT -5
Meanwhile, in Chapel Hill....life goes on.
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Post by cobrakai on Feb 27, 2015 14:03:37 GMT -5
Meanwhile, in Chapel Hill....life goes on. Chapel Hill Is where all the NCAA Investigators beastiality photos are kept.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Feb 27, 2015 14:14:12 GMT -5
Meanwhile, in Chapel Hill....life goes on. Chapel Hill Is where all the NCAA Investigators beastiality photos are kept. Damn those smart fuckers!
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Feb 27, 2015 15:31:26 GMT -5
Kind of ridiculous - seems sort of small to the other stuff that goes on. Oh well.
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Post by bcsbbad on Feb 27, 2015 15:46:37 GMT -5
Tobacco - spend some get away with a bunch if you spend enough. I have no proof but being accused makes you guilty to some and that's wrong.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Feb 27, 2015 19:42:59 GMT -5
Chapel Hill Is where all the NCAA Investigators beastiality photos are kept. Damn those smart fuckers! Heard it was a "virtual" investigation.
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Post by redstick13 on Mar 1, 2015 5:01:51 GMT -5
Pretty lame by the SEC. They look like retards in all this.
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Post by dawgfan17 on Mar 2, 2015 6:55:38 GMT -5
It's too bad that when they came up with these rules that there is no way anyone could not have foreseen this type of thing happening. Well I mean other than everyone outside the NCAA.
As for the UNC thing. Clearly they have someone that graduated from UNC that is heading up the illuminati or they would have gotten the worst penalties since SMU.
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Post by tonythegator on Mar 2, 2015 18:14:12 GMT -5
Whether it is fair or not, or right or not, it is LSU, so I'm LMAO!! That being said, it is a part of the rules, and for a reason. If a school has a player sign a FAA, then they should have them signing to enroll early at the same time. Then, there is no problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 15:45:07 GMT -5
I hear they did punish LSU?
People at TTU are scrambling to figure out what to do about Stidham and if TTU is getting hit next.
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