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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 12, 2016 8:56:00 GMT -5
Tim Tebow Comforts Man Who Collapses After Game By KAREN CROUSEOCT. 11, 2016 NY Times
Tim Tebow talking with a man who collapsed after Tebow’s Arizona Fall League game on Tuesday. Tebow stayed with the man for about 15 minutes. Credit Rob Schumacher/The Arizona Republic, via Associated Press PHOENIX — From the baseball diamond at Camelback Ranch, the University of Phoenix Stadium rises like a silvery moon. The stadium was the site of one of Tim Tebow’s many football triumphs. After the 2006 season, he was a member of the Florida team that upset top-ranked Ohio State in the national championship game.
Tebow, a reserve quarterback, scored two touchdowns, one by air and the other with his legs. Nearly a decade later, Tebow, 29, who spent three seasons in the N.F.L., took a step Tuesday in his quest to earn respect on another team, in a different sport, when he made his debut in the Arizona Fall League.
Playing outfield for the Scottsdale Scorpions, Tebow, a Mets prospect, went 0 for 3 at the plate, with three ground outs. The most solid contact Tebow made was with the left-field wall, which he crashed into face first while in pursuit of a fly ball that had eluded his outstretched glove.
“I’ve been hit harder,” he said. “So I’m O.K.”
Tebow’s afternoon took an intense turn after the game when a man standing in a crush of fans seeking autographs along the third-base line collapsed and appeared to have a seizure. Tebow stopped signing and cautiously made his way over to where people had gathered. He sat on the concrete retaining wall that separates the field from the first row of seats and prayed silently as a medic in a Bryce Harper T-shirt and a Detroit Tigers baseball cap tended to the man.
As the man was slowly coming to, Tebow leaned over and placed his right hand on the man’s left knee while Daniel Kelly, a former Jets scout who left football to become a debt counselor and minister, prayed out loud. Kelly, who was wearing a Mets Tebow jersey, attended the game with his wife, Samantha, to celebrate his 43rd birthday, and had been seated next to the fan who collapsed.
As the man regained his bearings, Tebow engaged him in conversation while waiting for paramedics from the Phoenix Fire Department to arrive. The man had dropped a baseball as he collapsed and it was near the crook of his arm as he lay on his right side with his head resting on a black backpack. Tebow leaned over, picked up the ball and signed it. He returned it to him saying, “I signed it for you if you want it.” He also took off the gray sweat bands that he had on each wrist, signed them and gave them to the man.
Tebow asked him where he was from (Hayesville, N.C.) and found out they had a friend in common whom Tebow described as “a really nice kid.” He asked the man, who said his first name was Brendan, if he was a Batman fan. When he answered in the affirmative, Tebow asked him if he had seen the latest Batman movie (he had) and what he thought of the ending. He found out that the man worked at Amazon. “Nice,” Tebow replied. “They’re taking over!” The man also volunteered that he learned this year that he had a brain tumor. “I’ll be praying for you, O.K.,” Tebow said. “By name.”
He sat talking with the man for roughly 15 minutes. “Sorry this happened,” the man said. “Glad I got the chance to meet you,” Tebow replied.
The man, aware that Tebow works as a college football analyst, shifted the conversation to that topic. Tebow asked for his favorite college team and he replied, “Bulldogs.” Raising his voice in mock anger, Tebow said: “Are you kidding me? I don’t know how to respond to that.” He listened intently as the man told him about a major recruit on Georgia’s radar.
Tebow left for the Scorpions team bus only after paramedics arrived and shooed everybody out of the way.
In a scrum with 21 members of the news media before he started signing autographs, Tebow was asked if he received overtures from N.F.L. teams after 2012, his last season in the league, to gauge his interest in playing a position other than quarterback. He said he had. So why did he say no?
“Just because it’s an opportunity in the N.F.L. that doesn’t mean it’s in my heart,” Tebow said. He loved playing quarterback and when that door closed, he sought new challenges — and baseball is his latest.
“You definitely miss football sometimes,” he said. “I’m thankful I get to talk about it every weekend and have fun. Yeah, there are times it’s like, man, I love that sport, it’s super fun, but this is also a lot of fun.”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 9:30:35 GMT -5
It says a ton about Tebow's character that he does this kind of thing. It's something some people feel that they MUST do, and something others run away from and wouldn't even do if asked.
The stuff Tebow is described as doing above is pretty much exactly what they teach emergency trauma responders. Psychological shock is a huge concern in trauma cases and can make even a minor incident become something major. Striking up this kind of conversation with the patient turns their focus away from the fear and pain and into a direction that prevents them from dwelling on what they're going through. I can't tell you the dozens of times I have done something very similar when I've encountered a trauma scene in a non-duty capacity and done the same thing. Even though I don't have all of the equipment that I'd have if I arrived in a rescue unit, just preventing deterioration of the patient's mental state and possibly intervening in the case of something like blood loss will always be something that is within my means. Additionally, one of the biggest things you can accomplish when you're the only trained individual on scene is preventing bystanders from causing real harm. Serious accidents always attract crowds of people that want to see, among those there are large number that want to do something. What they attempt to do often can result in more harm than the injuries sustained in the event itself.
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Post by 75tranzam on Oct 12, 2016 9:33:44 GMT -5
He's a good guy, I'm not sure how people still despise him.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 12, 2016 9:37:30 GMT -5
He's a good guy, I'm not sure how people still despise him. In a nation that has two presidential candidates like we have, not surprised that people despise good people. It is emblematic of our society today. Sad doesn't do it justice.
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Post by badgersballers on Oct 12, 2016 9:49:14 GMT -5
He's a good guy, I'm not sure how people still despise him. I think how ESPN and the media has covered him plays a huge role in the dislike.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 12, 2016 9:51:13 GMT -5
He's a good guy, I'm not sure how people still despise him. In a nation that has two presidential candidates like we have, not surprised that people despise good people. It is emblematic of our society today. Sad doesn't do it justice. I agree. For some reason, vitriol, hatred, cynicism, pessimism run rampant and ultimately to have compassion, empathy, and being happy for others just seems to have eroded away from our society.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 12, 2016 9:52:54 GMT -5
He's a good guy, I'm not sure how people still despise him. I think how ESPN and the media has covered him plays a huge role in the dislike. That's not their fault (ESPN and Media). That is folks inability to have ANY amount of emotional intelligence. Rather just allowing envy and jealousy to completely inhabit their emotions.
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Post by badgersballers on Oct 12, 2016 13:09:19 GMT -5
I think how ESPN and the media has covered him plays a huge role in the dislike. That's not their fault (ESPN and Media). That is folks inability to have ANY amount of emotional intelligence. Rather just allowing envy and jealousy to completely inhabit their emotions. Disagree completely, it is not the media's fault 100%, but I would definitely say they definitely have played a huge role in how Tim Tebow is viewed. . Pretty sure people would not hate on Tebow as much if we didn't have a Tebow Alert every 15 minutes regarding what was happening to him in training camp. I also don't think it's some problem of jealous and envy getting in the way, if that was the case fans would hate more athletes since they should be jealous and envious of their lives. Tebow is clearly a good guy, but he's also a very polarizing athlete.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 12, 2016 13:18:48 GMT -5
The problem with Tebow is people believe an opinion on him is absolute. He was a great college player and clearly a great guy. But when someone would say he isn't a prototypical NFL qb then people took that as diminishing his college career or his character, which it is not.
Just like someone saying he won't be an MLB player doesn't diminish anything he accomplished previously in baseball and doesn't mean that they think he isn't a good person (which he clearly is).
So it is possible to like Tebow as a person and not believe he was the second coming of a great NFL qb or a great baseball player. Not really possible to argue he is a very good human.
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 12, 2016 13:24:47 GMT -5
That's not their fault (ESPN and Media). That is folks inability to have ANY amount of emotional intelligence. Rather just allowing envy and jealousy to completely inhabit their emotions. Disagree completely, it is not the media's fault 100%, but I would definitely say they definitely have played a huge role in how Tim Tebow is viewed. . Pretty sure people would not hate on Tebow as much if we didn't have a Tebow Alert every 15 minutes regarding what was happening to him in training camp. I also don't think it's some problem of jealous and envy getting in the way, if that was the case fans would hate more athletes since they should be jealous and envious of their lives. Tebow is clearly a good guy, but he's also a very polarizing athlete. Again, it gets back to having emotional intelligence, thinking critically, and being able to move past things. Of course they might not hate Tebow, but the fact that they do says far more about them as a human being and not in a good way. If the media talking about Tim Tebow is what sets people off, then people need to evaluate a lot about their life. On top of that, if people didn't react to Tebow, then they would likely stop covering him like they do. They are merely in the ratings business. How is Tebow polarizing? Simply because he's religious?
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Post by tophb21 on Oct 12, 2016 13:26:24 GMT -5
The problem with Tebow is people believe an opinion on him is absolute. He was a great college player and clearly a great guy. But when someone would say he isn't a prototypical NFL qb then people took that as diminishing his college career or his character, which it is not. Just like someone saying he won't be an MLB player doesn't diminish anything he accomplished previously in baseball and doesn't mean that they think he isn't a good person (which he clearly is). So it is possible to like Tebow as a person and not believe he was the second coming of a great NFL qb or a great baseball player. Not really possible to argue he is a very good human. And I agree in the same manner that folks that can't handle criticism of Tebow, also need to step back and reflect on whether or not they can have objectivity.
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Post by 96Ag on Oct 12, 2016 13:31:47 GMT -5
Man what a prick!
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Post by gatordynasty on Oct 12, 2016 13:44:30 GMT -5
...did he Snapchat you too??
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Post by 96Ag on Oct 12, 2016 14:50:54 GMT -5
...did he Snapchat you too?? I wish... ...I saw it on my wife's phone
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 15:54:22 GMT -5
The problem with Tebow is people believe an opinion on him is absolute. He was a great college player and clearly a great guy. But when someone would say he isn't a prototypical NFL qb then people took that as diminishing his college career or his character, which it is not. Just like someone saying he won't be an MLB player doesn't diminish anything he accomplished previously in baseball and doesn't mean that they think he isn't a good person (which he clearly is). So it is possible to like Tebow as a person and not believe he was the second coming of a great NFL qb or a great baseball player. Not really possible to argue he is a very good human. I would add to this that it doesn't help that a certain segment of the very same people who mock Obama and those that say that objection to him are rooted in racism are the very same people who try to claim that objections to Tebow are solely because he is an outspoken Christian (including of course, some on this very board).
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 12, 2016 15:58:50 GMT -5
Well, part of that is due to the fact that many of his critics specifically point out his Christianity. Even the racists who hate Obama seldom admit that racial reasons are the reason they hate him. Don't get me wrong, not saying folks on this board have specifically made those charges about Tebow or even Obama...but much of the dislike of Tebow is the mocking of his Christianity and it is quite open.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 12, 2016 16:30:12 GMT -5
J.A. Adande and Bob Ryan mocking Tebow's action yesterday right now on Around the Horn. Right on cue.
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Post by BTB07 on Oct 12, 2016 16:48:14 GMT -5
J.A. Adande and Bob Ryan mocking Tebow's action yesterday right now on Around the Horn. Right on cue. See this I simply do not understand. He did things that Smog has said is what the trained professionals do. So since he clearly knew what to do he simply did it. I get criticizing his skills as an NFL qb and as a potential Major League Baseball player but as a person he would seem to be about as teflon as they get.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:04:24 GMT -5
Well, part of that is due to the fact that many of his critics specifically point out his Christianity. Even the racists who hate Obama seldom admit that racial reasons are the reason they hate him. Don't get me wrong, not saying folks on this board have specifically made those charges about Tebow or even Obama...but much of the dislike of Tebow is the mocking of his Christianity and it is quite open. Read the comments on any article on FoxNews about Obama.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:06:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile, yikes: SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Tim Tebow is in the Arizona Fall League. He might be better suited to playing in an Arizona high school league. His presence here is a farce, and he looks like an imposter pretending to have talent he does not possess. Tebow the baseball player is not a baseball player; he's a washed-up quarterback who has size and nothing else. www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=5741
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 14, 2016 13:07:03 GMT -5
Well, part of that is due to the fact that many of his critics specifically point out his Christianity. Even the racists who hate Obama seldom admit that racial reasons are the reason they hate him. Don't get me wrong, not saying folks on this board have specifically made those charges about Tebow or even Obama...but much of the dislike of Tebow is the mocking of his Christianity and it is quite open. Read the comments on any article on FoxNews about Obama. Not sure I understand. Are you saying that the FOX News reports have been racist or that the reader/listener comments have been racist?
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 14, 2016 13:09:08 GMT -5
Meanwhile, yikes: SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Tim Tebow is in the Arizona Fall League. He might be better suited to playing in an Arizona high school league. His presence here is a farce, and he looks like an imposter pretending to have talent he does not possess. Tebow the baseball player is not a baseball player; he's a washed-up quarterback who has size and nothing else. www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=5741So he should not be allowed to even try out? Can't read the article because I don't waste money on ESPN Insider.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:14:53 GMT -5
Read the comments on any article on FoxNews about Obama. Not sure I understand. Are you saying that the FOX News reports have been racist or that the reader/listener comments have been racist? Many of the comments are racial in nature
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Post by gatordynasty on Oct 14, 2016 13:17:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile, yikes: SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Tim Tebow is in the Arizona Fall League. He might be better suited to playing in an Arizona high school league. His presence here is a farce, and he looks like an imposter pretending to have talent he does not possess. Tebow the baseball player is not a baseball player; he's a washed-up quarterback who has size and nothing else. www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=5741This is what I don't get. He's not a good baseball player. We get it. 99% of us said so going in that he was likely to be unsuccessful. So why the vitriol? This isn't journalism, it's a vendetta. I've never seen so many people (not talking about you) take so much glee in a player failing or just finding it necessary to eviscerate them so harshly. He's a circus act. Acknowledge it or ignore it. Why do we have to get so nasty with someone who seems like a good dude?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:17:40 GMT -5
Meanwhile, yikes: SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Tim Tebow is in the Arizona Fall League. He might be better suited to playing in an Arizona high school league. His presence here is a farce, and he looks like an imposter pretending to have talent he does not possess. Tebow the baseball player is not a baseball player; he's a washed-up quarterback who has size and nothing else. www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=5741So he should not be allowed to even try out? Can't read the article because I don't waste money on ESPN Insider. Neither do I. And not sure of your point. Nobody said he can't try out. What he is saying is he does not belong in the AZ Fall League, which is usually for the best prospects in AA and AAA. Meanwhile, did Tony hack your account? You seem awfully defensive about Tebow
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 13:21:49 GMT -5
Meanwhile, yikes: SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. -- Tim Tebow is in the Arizona Fall League. He might be better suited to playing in an Arizona high school league. His presence here is a farce, and he looks like an imposter pretending to have talent he does not possess. Tebow the baseball player is not a baseball player; he's a washed-up quarterback who has size and nothing else. www.espn.com/blog/keith-law/insider/post?id=5741This is what I don't get. He's not a good baseball player. We get it. 99% of us said so going in that he was likely to be unsuccessful. So why the vitriol? This isn't journalism, it's a vendetta. I've never seen so many people (not talking about you) take so much glee in a player failing or just finding it necessary to eviscerate them so harshly. He's a circus act. Acknowledge it or ignore it. Why do we have to get so nasty with someone who seems like a good dude? He's 0-9 and clearly over matched, so he's going to get bad scouting reports. Also, blog on ESPN in this era? You know it's going to be over the top. Not sure that is a specific to Tebow thing.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 14, 2016 13:22:45 GMT -5
So he should not be allowed to even try out? Can't read the article because I don't waste money on ESPN Insider. Neither do I. And not sure of your point. Nobody said he can't try out. What he is saying is he does not belong in the AZ Fall League, which is usually for the best prospects in AA and AAA. Meanwhile, did Tony hack your account? You seem awfully defensive about Tebow I've ALWAYS been defensive of the bashing of what by all accounts seems to be a real good guy. I find it amazing frankly that people get a kick out of kicking this guy. But I guess I understand it. We are a society that likes thugs. Witness the election.
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Post by gatordynasty on Oct 14, 2016 13:31:03 GMT -5
This is what I don't get. He's not a good baseball player. We get it. 99% of us said so going in that he was likely to be unsuccessful. So why the vitriol? This isn't journalism, it's a vendetta. I've never seen so many people (not talking about you) take so much glee in a player failing or just finding it necessary to eviscerate them so harshly. He's a circus act. Acknowledge it or ignore it. Why do we have to get so nasty with someone who seems like a good dude? He's 0-9 and clearly over matched, so he's going to get bad scouting reports. Also, blog on ESPN in this era? You know it's going to be over the top. Not sure that is a specific to Tebow thing. Then bash the Mets for putting him there. I don't see the point of thoroughly trashing a guy unless he's either dogging it, showing bad sportsmanship, or doing bad stuff off the field. I don't disagree that he doesn't belong at that level. You can that without the histrionics. Especially coming from an Insider? I would expect more professionalism. It's not a fan board.
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Post by tonythegator on Oct 14, 2016 13:44:19 GMT -5
So he should not be allowed to even try out? Can't read the article because I don't waste money on ESPN Insider. Neither do I. And not sure of your point. Nobody said he can't try out. What he is saying is he does not belong in the AZ Fall League, which is usually for the best prospects in AA and AAA. Meanwhile, did Tony hack your account? You seem awfully defensive about Tebow I'll say it plain and simple, in a language everyone can understand....................."Kiss my ass." I don't have to be defensive about Tebow. There is nothing to be defensive about.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 14, 2016 14:37:36 GMT -5
Damn it. Notdpb has me agreeing with the President and Tony. WTF? ?
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