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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 21, 2023 11:09:30 GMT -5
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Florida State appears to be taking the first steps towards potentially exiting the ACC, reigniting a plan to potentially get out of an ironclad grant-of-rights deal with the conference that goes through 2036.
The Florida State Board of Trustees have set an emergency meeting Friday morning, according to Warchant, with potential discussions about the future of the school and its membership with the ACC, according to the Athletic’s Nicole Auerbach and Yahoo Sports’ Ross Dellenger.
“Florida State has scheduled an emergency meeting of its Board of Trustees for Friday morning, the first concrete step needed in any effort to enable the school to take legal action against the Atlantic Coast Conference,” the Athletic’s Nicole Auerbach reported Thursday morning.
Dellenger confirmed that the school’s conference situation will be a topic of discussion and legal action could be taken as a result: “At a meeting Friday, FSU Board of Trustees will discuss the Seminoles’ conference future, and the result of the meeting is expected to produce a legal filing serving as an initial step in an exit from ACC’s Grant-of-Rights, sources tell YahooSports.”
FSU has been flirting with leaving the conference since last summer’s conference realignment unheaval that saw the collapse of the Pac-12 when 10 programs left for the Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC respectively. That desire to find a more favorable conference situation was only exacerbated when an undefeated and ACC champion Florida State was left out of the College Football Playoff due to a late-season injury to starting quarterback Jordan Travis and the perception the ACC isn’t as strong a conference as the Big Ten and SEC.
Per Auerbach, the ACC’s grant-of-rights is a “legally binding document that controls the publicity rights of a conference’s member schools and extends throughout the length of the ACC’s media rights deal with ESPN, which runs through 2036.”
That’s a long time, and Florida State certainly seems antsy to get out of the conference before then. Certain FSU board members have already come out and essentially said they’re trying to get out of the conference.
Auerbach notes that one board member, Trustee Justin Roth, “called for FSU to make and execute an exit plan to get out of the ACC by August 2024” back in August of 2023 when several of the school’s board members initially spoke out.
Another trustee and former quarterback with the program, Drew Weatherford, said at the time: “It’s not a matter of if we leave (the ACC), in my opinion. It’s a matter of how and when we leave. Not everyone may agree with that, but I feel really strongly about it.”
That was in August. Now it appears FSU is restarting those discussions with Friday’s board meeting.
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Post by ghost on Dec 21, 2023 11:40:01 GMT -5
heard the yore coming to the big 12
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Dec 21, 2023 13:03:34 GMT -5
Where are they going?
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 21, 2023 13:10:32 GMT -5
It will be in the process. My guess would be when they can say, B1G. They would love to get a footprint in the Sunshine State. I would expect Florida to encourage the SEC to resist. But until they figure out the way to get out, don't think we will know anything specific to what conference. Big XII seems least likely...how much better is their TV deal than the current ACC one?
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Post by ghost on Dec 21, 2023 14:56:33 GMT -5
FSU leaving the aCC would trigger the mega conference move iMO.... I don't think they would really want to go BIG with all the west coast teams in..... the SEC would be there first target. The big12 would likely start to offer some acc schools..... who knows.... if the ACC was to fall apart.... big10 at 18 SEC at 16 big 12 at 16 Pac at 2 ACC sitting at 14.... plus Stanford, Cal, SMU on slate and ND in partially.... big12 takes: WSU, Oregon st, Cal, Stanford, SMU, Memphis, Fresno, Tulane .......24 SEC takes: FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, GT, VaTech, Louisville, NC State ......24 BIg10 takes: VA, BC, Cuse, Pitt, Wake, Duke..... 24 would work..
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Post by tophb21 on Dec 21, 2023 15:48:34 GMT -5
FSU leaving the aCC would trigger the mega conference move iMO.... I don't think they would really want to go BIG with all the west coast teams in..... the SEC would be there first target. The big12 would likely start to offer some acc schools..... who knows.... if the ACC was to fall apart.... big10 at 18 SEC at 16 big 12 at 16 Pac at 2 ACC sitting at 14.... plus Stanford, Cal, SMU on slate and ND in partially.... big12 takes: WSU, Oregon st, Cal, Stanford, SMU, Memphis, Fresno, Tulane .......24 SEC takes: FSU, Miami, Clemson, UNC, GT, VaTech, Louisville, NC State ......24 BIg10 takes: VA, BC, Cuse, Pitt, Wake, Duke..... 24 would work.. Works better if you can somehow split them into 8 regionally divisions of 9 teams where they play a round robin schedule and schedule 4 cross division games as they desire. Each division winner and 4 at large teams get in or I could see 8 division winners and 8 at large.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 21, 2023 16:13:49 GMT -5
And we could change their names to National and American Conferences with North, South, Central and West. That would be original. If you want to throw in the word Lite, that would be fine.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2023 14:34:00 GMT -5
Florida State was left out of this season's College Football Playoff despite being the undefeated champion of a Power Five conference.
Many suggested that the snub revealed how the selection committee felt about the ACC, and that Florida State may be better off leaving the conference if it can't ensure a bid for an undefeated conference champion.
On Friday, Florida State took the first big step toward leaving the ACC.
The university's board of trustees has granted the school permission to file a lawsuit against the conference to challenge the current grant of rights.
That grant of rights currently dictates that FSU is to remain in the conference until 2036, and the Seminoles are attempting to get out of that deal in order to join another league.
The Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 have all been suggested as possible landing spots for Florida State.
Each conference has added new members over the last few years as realignment has changed college sports as we know it.
Florida State has been in the ACC since 1992, when it joined after previously being an independent school in football, much like Notre Dame is today.
If 2023 is FSU's final year in the ACC, they will leave after winning 16 conference championships and three national championships during their time as a member.
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Post by ghost on Dec 22, 2023 15:53:12 GMT -5
It will start a domino effect.
If FSU can say the GOR is invalid..... oh man.... the door will be open... the ACC will be a shell like the PAc12 is....
The only thing that would hold it possibly is the CFBPO and the 12 team field........ or would it hurt knowing that only 1 ACC team would get in every yer as champ..... the money would still be way off.
i wold think Clemson, Miami, UNC would be the first to go.....
Would the big12 get aggressive with invites? What would Cal and Stanford do?
What is the "cap" for the SEC and Big10? 24 teams? 20?
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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2023 16:09:24 GMT -5
When you signed a Grant if Rights three times as a member of the ACC it’s going to be hard to argue it’s unfair but stranger things have happened.
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Post by ghost on Dec 23, 2023 0:11:41 GMT -5
When you signed a Grant if Rights three times as a member of the ACC it’s going to be hard to argue it’s unfair but stranger things have happened. I’m sure they will contest the adding of the new 3.... challenge it citing circumstances have changed vs other conferences and an unwillingness of the conference to attempt to renegotiate since any new one would require a new GOR and you already have them locked till 2035...... it will I’ll be tough, but I’m sure there are legal arguments that can be made.
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