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Post by bigdawgs on Mar 26, 2024 6:35:44 GMT -5
Having crossed the bridge many times, it really is frightening to think about how they plunged off it. Prayers for all those who have lost their lives.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 26, 2024 7:00:52 GMT -5
Awful tragedy
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 26, 2024 7:42:34 GMT -5
You can see the lights of the vehicles passing as the vessel approaches.
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Post by theswan on Mar 26, 2024 8:30:54 GMT -5
Crazy. I hope there weren't very many cars on the bridge when it happened.
Somewhat similar to the Amtrak derailment in Bayou Canot here back in '93. That was mostly due to extreme fog, coupled with out of date technology. 47 people died. Very sad
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 26, 2024 9:03:18 GMT -5
Crazy. I hope there weren't very many cars on the bridge when it happened. Somewhat similar to the Amtrak derailment in Bayou Canot here back in '93. That was mostly due to extreme fog, coupled with out of date technology. 47 people died. Very sad It's reported that 7 cars were on the bridge when the collapse occurred. Also 20 workers.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Mar 26, 2024 9:48:11 GMT -5
Information seems to be up and down and not many seem to know the exact answer, which is understandable at this stage.
As of this morning, reports of what, 8 construction workers on the bridge. Word is there was a "MAYDAY" transmission and through the efforts of authorities were able to eliminate some vehicle traffic, etc.
A lot of mix messaging out there after listening to various members of local and State government speak on this tragedy. A Harbor Pilot was at the helm, which is protocol, there were some power issues, and they got a transmission out to whoever that they were headed toward the piling.
Seems like two were rescued, one in serious condition, the other fine and refusing further medical attention, with six more missing. These numbers do not seem to reflect possible folks in cars, but again, a lot of differing information out there.
Other than that, I do not know what else to say except I am sorry and pray for those on the bridge, the families affected, and can only hope this gets an answer to help prevent future happenings like this. Thoughts with Maryland.
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Post by bigdawgs on Mar 26, 2024 10:29:59 GMT -5
They were very fortunate since I understand the accident happened around 1:30 in the morning. I have been on that bridge when there was standing traffic. The Harbor Tunnel will now be packed with more traffic than ever and I have no idea how long it will take to clear all the debris to reopen the harbor. Lots of lives will be severely impacted.
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Post by theswan on Mar 26, 2024 10:45:10 GMT -5
They were very fortunate since I understand the accident happened around 1:30 in the morning. I have been on that bridge when there was standing traffic. The Harbor Tunnel will now be packed with more traffic than ever and I have no idea how long it will take to clear all the debris to reopen the harbor. Lots of lives will be severely impacted. Maryland will be in the red by the end of the year. All cargo traffic will have to be re-routed to other ports for the foreseeable future. The Baltimore harbor directly employees over 15k people and 140k total. The devastation to Baltimore will likely be far greater than Katrina was to New Orleans. I think Baltimore's port receives more car and trucks than any other point. Expect new cars prices to rise even more.
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Post by erock72 on Mar 26, 2024 11:22:48 GMT -5
In one of the videos you see the lights on the ship go on and off a couple times and there was some thick smoke rolling off of it. Not sure what happened but it seems to be some sort of mechanical failure?
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Post by tophb21 on Mar 26, 2024 11:39:29 GMT -5
What an unfathomably awful tragedy. My heart aches for all affected by this.
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Post by bigdawgs on Mar 26, 2024 11:49:55 GMT -5
They were very fortunate since I understand the accident happened around 1:30 in the morning. I have been on that bridge when there was standing traffic. The Harbor Tunnel will now be packed with more traffic than ever and I have no idea how long it will take to clear all the debris to reopen the harbor. Lots of lives will be severely impacted. Maryland will be in the red by the end of the year. All cargo traffic will have to be re-routed to other ports for the foreseeable future. The Baltimore harbor directly employees over 15k people and 140k total. The devastation to Baltimore will likely be far greater than Katrina was to New Orleans. I think Baltimore's port receives more car and trucks than any other point. Expect new cars prices to rise even more. Yeah, it is a huge car port. Twice I picked up my car from tours in Germany in Baltimore harbor. It will be indeed devastating as long as the river is closed.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 26, 2024 11:52:19 GMT -5
They were very fortunate since I understand the accident happened around 1:30 in the morning. I have been on that bridge when there was standing traffic. The Harbor Tunnel will now be packed with more traffic than ever and I have no idea how long it will take to clear all the debris to reopen the harbor. Lots of lives will be severely impacted. Maryland will be in the red by the end of the year. All cargo traffic will have to be re-routed to other ports for the foreseeable future. The Baltimore harbor directly employees over 15k people and 140k total. The devastation to Baltimore will likely be far greater than Katrina was to New Orleans. I think Baltimore's port receives more car and trucks than any other point. Expect new cars prices to rise even more. To your point, I totally agree. There are two terminals that are south of the bridge and one is currently accepting vessel traffic, Tradepoint Terminal - Breakbulk and Vehicles. Cove Point, which is used for LNG vessels. All other terminals, Ruckert, Steinweg, Seagirt, Chesapeake, Dundalk, etc., will be severely affected.
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Post by theswan on Mar 26, 2024 14:51:02 GMT -5
Biden is doing his thing where he tries to be relatable by lying. Said he crossed it many times by car or train from Deleware.
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Post by ghost on Mar 26, 2024 15:28:23 GMT -5
So was the boat suppose to go UNDER the bridge? looks way to tall..... did it lose power and current take it tot he bridge?
i can't wait for all the "the bridge was blown up by the gov" people like in 9-11... "the bridge should ahve held".. i hope not, but it seems there is always that crowd....
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Post by athens on Mar 26, 2024 15:29:37 GMT -5
So was the boat suppose to go UNDER the bridge? looks way to tall..... did it lose power and current take it tot he bridge? i can't wait for all the "the bridge was blown up by the gov" people like in 9-11... "the bridge should ahve held".. i hope not, but it seems there is always that crowd.... Yeah all those crazy folks who love a conspiracy theory...
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Post by ghost on Mar 26, 2024 15:32:42 GMT -5
So was the boat suppose to go UNDER the bridge? looks way to tall..... did it lose power and current take it tot he bridge? i can't wait for all the "the bridge was blown up by the gov" people like in 9-11... "the bridge should ahve held".. i hope not, but it seems there is always that crowd.... Yeah all those crazy folks who love a conspiracy theory... it does make me ask... is there always a camera watching the bridge 24/7? or was it a tourist at 1:30am? we are lucky to have such a video(s?).... or was it the mayday that was called out and people knew it was going minis before?
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Post by athens on Mar 26, 2024 15:33:53 GMT -5
There is probably CCTV on it at the very least
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Post by NCBulldawg on Mar 26, 2024 16:49:26 GMT -5
Wasn't a Harbor Pilot in control of the boat when this happened? He would have first hand knowledge of the whole thing being aboard the ship, would he not? I mean, being the one steering the boat out of the Port, and all.
This is one of those deals "they" have to get their chit together before coming out and telling us the truth of the matter, if that is what we get when all is said and done.
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Post by pittnd on Mar 26, 2024 17:37:21 GMT -5
This was heartbreaking and awful to watch. Thoughts go out to all affected. It’s insane that anyone could survive that fall into 47 degree water but apparently at least a couple did.
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Post by ghost on Mar 26, 2024 17:50:04 GMT -5
so..... again... was it suppose to go Under the bridge? or was it WAY off course?
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 26, 2024 17:59:08 GMT -5
Wasn't a Harbor Pilot in control of the boat when this happened? He would have first hand knowledge of the whole thing being aboard the ship, would he not? I mean, being the one steering the boat out of the Port, and all. This is one of those deals "they" have to get their chit together before coming out and telling us the truth of the matter, if that is what we get when all is said and done. Yes, a Pilot is compulsory on every foreign flag vessel arriving/departing our ports. The Pilot has the local knowledge of tricky turns, currents, speed, etc.. The Pilot never touches the wheel or is ever at the helm. The only thing the the Pilot does is "advise" the master on direction, speed, rpms, etc...its up to the vessels officers/crew to heed the advise. The pilot has zero responsibility.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 26, 2024 18:00:20 GMT -5
so..... again... was it suppose to go Under the bridge? or was it WAY off course? This is the 2nd time you've asked this qwerstion. How else is a boat, of any size, supposed get pass a bridge?
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Post by bilogle on Mar 26, 2024 20:26:10 GMT -5
so..... again... was it suppose to go Under the bridge? or was it WAY off course? This is the 2nd time you've asked this qwerstion. How else is a boat, of any size, supposed get pass a bridge? they hop over bridges, like frogs
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Post by ghost on Mar 27, 2024 1:41:01 GMT -5
so..... again... was it suppose to go Under the bridge? or was it WAY off course? This is the 2nd time you've asked this qwerstion. How else is a boat, of any size, supposed get pass a bridge? Hey...... you are nit stupid. Come on. It’s an easy question. There are brudges EVERYEHERE were boats do not cross under..... that boat oooked WAY to tall and I didn’t see a mech to swing or raise the bridge ..... I didn’t know if the boat was suppose to go one direction adjacent to the bridge but versed off course and into it. Or if the optic were an illusion and the boat would have made it under? Its a simple question that no one no one has answered. I don’t know a thing about that bridge but some on here have been on it.
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Post by bigdawgs on Mar 27, 2024 7:27:52 GMT -5
Boats sail UNDER it, much like they do the Golden Gate Bridge. It is at the entrance to a major harbor. The ship ran into the support posts. The height of the ship was not an issue.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Mar 27, 2024 9:06:01 GMT -5
Boats sail UNDER it, much like they do the Golden Gate Bridge. It is at the entrance to a major harbor. The ship ran into the support posts. The height of the ship was not an issue. This in a nutshell
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2024 9:14:22 GMT -5
I want to preface this by saying this is absolutely terrible.
But this thread is SCM Classic.
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Post by theswan on Mar 27, 2024 9:20:43 GMT -5
Boats sail UNDER it, much like they do the Golden Gate Bridge. It is at the entrance to a major harbor. The ship ran into the support posts. The height of the ship was not an issue. This in a nutshell I don't think that's true about them using a nutshell
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Post by athens on Mar 27, 2024 9:49:56 GMT -5
I don't think that's true about them using a nutshell
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Post by ghost on Mar 27, 2024 10:22:24 GMT -5
Boats sail UNDER it, much like they do the Golden Gate Bridge. It is at the entrance to a major harbor. The ship ran into the support posts. The height of the ship was not an issue. thank you.... the videos all just looked like there as no way it would clear the bridge.... where it hit (height wise)... I didn't know if there as another way to come into the harbor for that size of a boat and it just lost power and "took a right" instead of going straight... I figured that all harbors used "tug boats" to navigate unit a ship got to sea... seems like if these kinds/size boats routinely went under it, they would have measures in place to keep them far away from the pillars.... We get jackass fisher people hitting lake bridge pillars out here seemingly all the time.... i know its not the same thing, but its always a risk and with boats that size you would think they would have a system as a safety net....
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