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Post by csd10 on Jun 18, 2009 14:33:42 GMT -5
Ha that's awefully hypocritical on PETA's part if true. I wonder what agenda the organization behind that Web site has. I'm sure it's not to protect puppies and kittens either. My hunch is that it is some group that uses the same extremist tactics as PETA to push whatever agenda they may have. What a vicious circle.
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Post by Life's too short. on Jun 18, 2009 15:43:34 GMT -5
Exactly. Great cause. Extremist execution. Still worthy of my support. That'd probably be because you haven't been fucked by the idiots a dozen times in the most asinine of ways. Trust me. They're as bad as extremist groups get.
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Post by Life's too short. on Jun 18, 2009 16:15:11 GMT -5
An example of Sierra Club brilliance (and only one of many, many cases I've personally run up against in my life):
We had horses in stalls on the border of our alfalfa farm near Taft, CA. The Sierra Club came in looking for Kit fox burrows, and when they inevitably found some in the vicinity, went to the authorities and demanded we get rid of the horses because a fox might come into the stalls at night and get kicked to death.
Another example just because it crossed my mind again: Kangaroo rats on the coast = endangered, Kangaroo rats in the San Joaquin Valley = about as endangered as cock roaches. Most endangered: Sierra Clubbers with the intelligence sufficient to distinguish between an endangered population and an endangered species. They've forced tons of completely asinine regulation on the farming and oil industries of the San Joaquin Valley as the result of their half-brained efforts. It's only the small population in the area of Morro Bay on the coast 150 miles away that is threatened, but they can't see past "Kangaroo Rat".
This is like the government idiocy about asbestos. There's two main kinds that have been used in industrial applications: asbestos from the Serpentine group (Chrysotile), and asbestos types from the Amphibole group. 95% of the asbestos used in the U.S. is Chrysotile, damned near ALL of the cases of asbestosis or mesothelioma are cause by amphibole asbestoses. Until very recently, the U.S. government was the only industrialized country too dimwitted to make the distinction. It was so much easier for the environmentalists to scare everyone about asbestos than to educate them about the different kinds. Recently, under "global warming threat" like pressure from environmentalists, the EU and Japan have joined the U.S. in banning all forms of asbestos, and are throwing away BILLIONS OF DOLLARS pointlessly removing harmless chrysotile from their environments in just another moronic crusade.
The reason amphibole asbestos is harmful and chrysotile isn't, is because of the atomic matrix and the way the crystalline structure fractures. Even amphibole asbestos required an extended period of time in high exposure to become harmful, but the nature of the crystals allows that to be the case even after the person has been removed from the asbestos bearing environment. Amphibole asbestos fractures along the length of the crystal instead of across the crystal as with chrysotile. This means the body's defense mechanisms can't capture the particles and expel them from the body over time. Instead of particles becoming smaller as they are broken down, they remain the same length and only become more numerous, remaining as irritants in the tissues for more than 10 years.
Chrysotile asbestos on the other hand, fractures across the length of the crystal, and as such, becomes more acceptable to the body's efforts to remove it. Yes, chrysotile has been blamed for a very few deaths, where someone has lived among it in a near immersed existence for decades, but the same happens with plain old dust.
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Post by Life's too short. on Jun 18, 2009 16:19:18 GMT -5
Something I was just reminded of that is more illustrative of the parallel between Sierra Club stupidity and PETA stupidity demonstrated in the incident with the fly would be the flyer my mother brought home once that someone from the Sierra Club had given her. It was about "Stupid Diver Tricks", and went into discussing such tragic occurrences as when someone thoughtlessly makes a dive at night using lights. The reason for their dramatic concern? IT DISTURBS SLEEPING FISH!!!!
So? The headlights on those fuckers' cars at night disturb sleeping squirrels and cows, but I don't see them passing out flyers for that.
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Post by gatordynasty on Jun 18, 2009 19:42:40 GMT -5
I was just talking to my dad about it, and he said he heard about it, but he also heard that PETA was making a joke. He saw it on the news and not in print, so I don't know the validity of it. If it's the truth, then I actually gained some respect for them, if they have enough sense of humor to poke fun at themselves. I'm not sure about this though, has anyone else heard anything?
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Post by Life's too short. on Jun 18, 2009 20:37:16 GMT -5
I was just talking to my dad about it, and he said he heard about it, but he also heard that PETA was making a joke. He saw it on the news and not in print, so I don't know the validity of it. If it's the truth, then I actually gained some respect for them, if they have enough sense of humor to poke fun at themselves. I'm not sure about this though, has anyone else heard anything? Doesn't the fact that a "humane" fly trap even exists seem to indicate a PETA mentality toward flies? I've known some PETA people and they wouldn't do this as a joke. One of the actresses I dated that was BIG into PETA stuff didn't even like (would get angry about) fish in aquariums. .. . . or should I say sea kittens?
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Post by maestro on Jun 18, 2009 22:08:39 GMT -5
SAD, I am sorry that you have been negatively affected by the Sierra Club. I am a member because I believe in the principles that were laid down by John Muir. Conservation of our wilderness is something that deserves my support.
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Post by KU62 on Jun 19, 2009 1:54:35 GMT -5
PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.I got a great idea...he can catch the fly in PETA trap and then we can all sit on the White House Lawn and blast away at it with shotguns, Kinda like Presidential Skeet Shooting. I like the idea of shotguns on the WH lawn. Could be a real fund raiser.
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Post by KU62 on Jun 19, 2009 1:59:46 GMT -5
PETA = People Exhibiting Total Asininity Asininity...nice ;D Is that a short form of "Ass is a ninny, ain't 'e" ? Jes askin.
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Post by KU62 on Jun 19, 2009 2:04:54 GMT -5
Exactly. Great cause. Extremist execution. Still worthy of my support. Sure are. Love 'em all when I sup enuf port.
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Post by Life's too short. on Jun 19, 2009 6:37:04 GMT -5
SAD, I am sorry that you have been negatively affected by the Sierra Club. I am a member because I believe in the principles that were laid down by John Muir. Conservation of our wilderness is something that deserves my support. That's what I mean when I say these kinds of organizations that were started to support great causes have been completely hijacked by extremists. You SHOULD support conservation, but realize that with some groups your money is often instead being redirected toward extremist activities (in the cases of Greenpeace and Sierra Club) rather than the conservation originally intended. I truly believe John Muir would gag if he saw the PETA-like behavior the Sierra Club has taken on today. In my experience, PETA and Sierra Club have behaved in EXACTLY the same class of radical manner. To me it's kind of like how people who support Muslim charities feel the desire to help other people only to have their money funneled to militant groups (but the result SC/GP isn't so much about people blowing things up).
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Post by Wolferuns on Jun 19, 2009 7:24:04 GMT -5
NRA Wap and Hornet spray
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Post by Wolferuns on Jun 19, 2009 7:25:46 GMT -5
Red neck Bug bomb
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Post by Life's too short. on Jun 19, 2009 7:27:15 GMT -5
Damn those were big hornets.
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