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Post by GoBigRed203 on Dec 6, 2010 8:11:33 GMT -5
Shaun Marcum is a really good pitcher and this was a good trade for the Brew Crew. Marcum came off of surgery last year to go 13-8 with an ERA of 3.64. Marcum had a lot of success against the Red Sox last year, if I remember correctly, so I guess they'll be glad to see him gone. Anyway..I am not looking forward to the Cubs having to face him...
Good trade for the Brewers...depending on who they have to give away, it might actually be a great trade..
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 6, 2010 16:36:41 GMT -5
I don't like this trade if they don't resign Weeks. They gave up arguably their best prospect for him. He did put up good numbers in a tough division. He'll give the Brewers a solid #2 which they haven't had in a while.
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Post by BTB07 on Dec 6, 2010 22:16:45 GMT -5
I don't like this trade if they don't resign Weeks. They gave up arguably their best prospect for him. He did put up good numbers in a tough division. He'll give the Brewers a solid #2 which they haven't had in a while. I agree BB. I think that Weeks is a guy who went from potential, to a solid player last year. He is a guy that they have to resign, sooner rather than later. Marcum is a solid addition, but it doesn't make a lot of sense if they don't make the proper moves around it.
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 6, 2010 22:47:33 GMT -5
I don't like this trade if they don't resign Weeks. They gave up arguably their best prospect for him. He did put up good numbers in a tough division. He'll give the Brewers a solid #2 which they haven't had in a while. I agree BB. I think that Weeks is a guy who went from potential, to a solid player last year. He is a guy that they have to resign, sooner rather than later. Marcum is a solid addition, but it doesn't make a lot of sense if they don't make the proper moves around it. I don't think you get what I was saying. I think it's important that they sign him because they need him with the fact that they gave up their best 2nd base prospect in this deal who was arguably their best prospect as well.
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Post by BTB07 on Dec 7, 2010 12:30:06 GMT -5
I agree BB. I think that Weeks is a guy who went from potential, to a solid player last year. He is a guy that they have to resign, sooner rather than later. Marcum is a solid addition, but it doesn't make a lot of sense if they don't make the proper moves around it. I don't think you get what I was saying. I think it's important that they sign him because they need him with the fact that they gave up their best 2nd base prospect in this deal who was arguably their best prospect as well. I was thinking along the lines that since Weeks produced last year they are willing to sign him to a larger deal allowing them to deal their best 2B prospect for a solid starting pitcher. Pretty good move in my opinion. I don't think it makes them favorites in the division or anything, but becoming more competitive in the NL Central makes the division a toss up.
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 9, 2010 2:05:20 GMT -5
I don't think you get what I was saying. I think it's important that they sign him because they need him with the fact that they gave up their best 2nd base prospect in this deal who was arguably their best prospect as well. I was thinking along the lines that since Weeks produced last year they are willing to sign him to a larger deal allowing them to deal their best 2B prospect for a solid starting pitcher. Pretty good move in my opinion. I don't think it makes them favorites in the division or anything, but becoming more competitive in the NL Central makes the division a toss up. I tend to agree with you. Right now the Cardinals, and the Reds are the top 2 with the Brewers slightly behind. If they can get another decent pitcher they should stay competitive in the Central, and maybe get lucky and win it.
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Post by MIZ-SIU on Dec 9, 2010 22:18:46 GMT -5
I was thinking along the lines that since Weeks produced last year they are willing to sign him to a larger deal allowing them to deal their best 2B prospect for a solid starting pitcher. Pretty good move in my opinion. I don't think it makes them favorites in the division or anything, but becoming more competitive in the NL Central makes the division a toss up. I tend to agree with you. Right now the Cardinals, and the Reds are the top 2 with the Brewers slightly behind. If they can get another decent pitcher they should stay competitive in the Central, and maybe get lucky and win it. I do love your optomism BB ;D
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 10, 2010 0:06:47 GMT -5
I tend to agree with you. Right now the Cardinals, and the Reds are the top 2 with the Brewers slightly behind. If they can get another decent pitcher they should stay competitive in the Central, and maybe get lucky and win it. I do love your optomism BB ;D "NO" I'm being realistic, and it's better to have faith then be a pessimist. The Brewers right now are an 80 win team, while the PC Cardinals, and the Fightin' Reds are 90 win teams. If they can get another pitcher(Doesn't have to be a great one) that can give them some decent starts, and win 10 or so games they'll have a shot the NL Central. Maybe a guy they can get for Princess. And for the record that person hopefully isn't Carl Pavano giving him 3 years 33 million would be a fucking joke. Oh, and just for the record...Fuck the Cubs, and the FIBS.
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Post by tophb21 on Dec 14, 2010 8:53:48 GMT -5
I do love your optomism BB ;D "NO" I'm being realistic, and it's better to have faith then be a pessimist. The Brewers right now are an 80 win team, while the PC Cardinals, and the Fightin' Reds are 90 win teams. If they can get another pitcher(Doesn't have to be a great one) that can give them some decent starts, and win 10 or so games they'll have a shot the NL Central. Maybe a guy they can get for Princess. And for the record that person hopefully isn't Carl Pavano giving him 3 years 33 million would be a fucking joke. Oh, and just for the record...Fuck the Cubs, and the FIBS. Unless you guys have a 4 man rotation, the math doesn't work. If you get another pitcher presumable he's going to replace someone already in the rotation. Even if that person went 6-12. You will need a 16 game winner to get to 90 wins. Doing that becomes a bit more daunting, but it definitely can be down. How bout Joe Blantonn and you keep the Prince. ;D
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 22, 2010 18:11:46 GMT -5
"NO" I'm being realistic, and it's better to have faith then be a pessimist. The Brewers right now are an 80 win team, while the PC Cardinals, and the Fightin' Reds are 90 win teams. If they can get another pitcher(Doesn't have to be a great one) that can give them some decent starts, and win 10 or so games they'll have a shot the NL Central. Maybe a guy they can get for Princess. And for the record that person hopefully isn't Carl Pavano giving him 3 years 33 million would be a fucking joke. Oh, and just for the record...Fuck the Cubs, and the FIBS. Unless you guys have a 4 man rotation, the math doesn't work. If you get another pitcher presumable he's going to replace someone already in the rotation. Even if that person went 6-12. You will need a 16 game winner to get to 90 wins. Doing that becomes a bit more daunting, but it definitely can be down. How bout Joe Blantonn and you keep the Prince. ;D Wow, how did I miss this gem? How about Zack Greinke? ;D Anyways toph, here's what I was thinking when I posted that: Gallardo: Will get about the same wins as last year. Marcum: Will improve the amount of wins by 2-3 games over last year's #2. Wolf: Will improve the #3's wins by 2 or so wins. Narvenson: about the same #5: About the same as last year. And then if Fielder, and Braun don't have a down year this year that gives you a shot at 90. With Greinke though 90 games is expected, and our goal is to beat the Yankees err I mean Phillies in the NLCS.
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Post by tophb21 on Dec 22, 2010 21:56:08 GMT -5
I think Grienke will rebound in Milwaukee this year and could win 15-20 games.
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Post by badgersballers on Dec 27, 2010 2:13:40 GMT -5
I think Grienke will rebound in Milwaukee this year and could win 15-20 games. I don't know what to say. I kinda wish you doubted him so if he had a good season I could rob it in your face, but then again you know a "little" bit about pitching so I guess you have faith in him.
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Post by tophb21 on Dec 27, 2010 23:42:26 GMT -5
I think Grienke will rebound in Milwaukee this year and could win 15-20 games. I don't know what to say. I kinda wish you doubted him so if he had a good season I could rob it in your face, but then again you know a "little" bit about pitching so I guess you have faith in him. Don't know what to tell you. Going to the NL and also going to another fairly small market could be just the elixir he needs to get back on track. Solid mechanics so it's not like he went Rick Ankiel on everyone and not only lost his mind, but forgot how to throw even a 4 seam fastball.
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