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Post by BTB07 on Jun 29, 2018 16:52:48 GMT -5
For making the AA all star team. Good for him.
I didn’t think he would make it but he has proven to be a good minor league player.
Do I still think the Mets did it for publicity and as a gimmick? Yes. But good for him for following what he wanted to do and improving to make it a reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 17:16:58 GMT -5
Not trying to be a dick here, but how does .261 and 5 HRs get one the All-Star Game?
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Post by BTB07 on Jun 29, 2018 17:21:13 GMT -5
Not trying to be a dick here, but how does .261 and 5 HRs get one the All-Star Game? Not sure. I have a decent sports package for tv but haven’t been able to find the Rumble Ponies games quite yet. We know his popularity plays some role but good for him for even being relatively successful.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 17:22:34 GMT -5
Guy should be at NL team now. They suck. He would be a plus. Love the guys heart and determination despite the critics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 17:30:37 GMT -5
Not trying to be a dick here, but how does .261 and 5 HRs get one the All-Star Game? Not sure. I have a decent sports package for tv but haven’t been able to find the Rumble Ponies games quite yet. We know his popularity plays some role but good for him for even being relatively successful. It's because he's Tim Tebow. Period. Sure, he got hot in June, but his stat line for the season is meh: Player BA OBP HR RBI SB Tim Tebow 0.261 0.335 5 30 0 Here are some of the other guys who made the team: Player BA OBP HR RBI SB Vlad Guerrero Jr. 0.407 0.457 11 55 3 Bo Bichette 0.28 0.344 7 42 24 Brendan Rodgers 0.277 0.333 14 51 9 Ryan Mountcastle 0.306 0.361 7 30 0 Cavan Biggio 0.278 0.397 16 61 9 One of these guys is not like the others, one of these guys does not belong
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 17:31:25 GMT -5
Guy should be at NL team now. They suck. He would be a plus. Love the guys heart and determination despite the critics. Based on what? His sizzling .261 and 5 homers at AA? Come on now.
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Post by BTB07 on Jun 29, 2018 17:46:36 GMT -5
Guy should be at NL team now. They suck. He would be a plus. Love the guys heart and determination despite the critics. Based on what? His sizzling .261 and 5 homers at AA? Come on now. Have you seen the Mets play? It would be awful kind for someone to call them a double a team outside of the guys on the mound like Syndergaard and Degromme.
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Post by BTB07 on Jun 29, 2018 17:47:30 GMT -5
Guy should be at NL team now. They suck. He would be a plus. Love the guys heart and determination despite the critics. Based on what? His sizzling .261 and 5 homers at AA? Come on now. I saw where the Mets couldn’t sell tickets to a game with a pitching matchup of Degromme and Keyshawn. Seats that had a face value of over 280 dollars weren’t selling even when listed for the 20 dollar range. They need a draw
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 18:03:06 GMT -5
Guy should be at NL team now. They suck. He would be a plus. Love the guys heart and determination despite the critics. Based on what? His sizzling .261 and 5 homers at AA? Come on now. Dial it down on the hate. I understand he is a Christian Fundamentalist. But compared to the players in Flushing, he is a gem. I am hardly saying that he is a MVP candidate. But EVERYONE must admit he is miles further along than most of this board said he would be I realize good guys are hard to pull for these days, but he deserves a shot. The guy busts his butt and that grates on people. LOL. Tony is right on this one.
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Post by 75tranzam on Jun 29, 2018 18:08:05 GMT -5
Not trying to be a dick here, but how does .261 and 5 HRs get one the All-Star Game? I thought the same thing but I'm not sure how players get selected for that All-Star Game. Pretty fair article: Tim Tebow improving, but call-up to majors would be a stretch
"Tim Tebow suddenly looking like a pro baseball player," was the headline in Wednesday's New York Post. "I saw him last year at Columbia," Hartford manager Warren Schaeffer told the Post. "He's a tough out right now. We had a really tough time against Tim Tebow. He hits fastballs well. He's a strong kid. His approach has gotten a lot better." "Sorry, haters, Tim Tebow's 'starting to thrive' in Double-A," read the headline Thursday at MLive.com, which quotes Harrisburg manager Matt Lecroy from the same story in the Post saying, "We've got guys who've been playing five, six, seven years not having the success he's had at Double-A. A lot of people thought he could not do that and now he's starting to thrive in Double-A." The headline at The Big Lead was more in your face: "Tim Tebow Update: Just Call Him Up Already." The author's reasoning: "Get Tebow to The Show whether he's earned it or not. This may be the closest he comes to earning it. If it's going to happen soon, why not now?" The whole Tim Tebow act might not interest you, die-hard baseball fan and protector of purity, but the casual sports fan is very interested. Tebow is popular. He's likable. He's a big name. Is he a major league baseball player? Not really. Even in his 22-game hot streak this month, he has just one home run with 21 strikeouts and just three walks. That ratio isn't going to work over the long term. He's also hitting .318 this month thanks to a .455 average on balls in play, and even if all those hits have been rockets, he's not going to keep up a .455 BABIP. On top of that, the rest of his game is limited. The report on his outfield play has never been positive, and he has seen all his action in left field. If you've seen highlights, you'll see he's not very fast, despite his history as a running quarterback back in the day at Florida. So if viewed through the lens of a traditional prospect, his hitting would have to carry him to the majors, and that tool is still mediocre. Compare Tebow to former Binghamton teammate Peter Alonso, who was promoted to Triple-A after hitting .314/.440/.573 with 15 home runs in 65 games. That's a hitting prospect. Jeff McNeil is a 26-year-old infielder also just promoted to Las Vegas after hitting .327/.402/.626 for Binghamton. He wasn't even viewed as one of the Mets' top 30 prospects entering the season. Does Tebow deserve a call-up to the majors ahead of one of those two? Of course, Tebow isn't a traditional prospect, and you do have to acknowledge he has done better than expected given his lack of baseball experience. Still, he turns 31 in August, and if his name was Jim Jebow, he wouldn't be on a Double-A roster at his age with his tools. That doesn't mean the hapless Mets won't consider a September cameo if there's a space open on the 40-man roster. Given everything else that has happened with the Mets this season, I guess you can view that possibility as either an embarrassment to the franchise or the best thing that will happen to it all year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 18:08:31 GMT -5
Based on what? His sizzling .261 and 5 homers at AA? Come on now. Dial it down on the hate. I understand he is a Christian Fundamentalist. But compared to the players in Flushing, he is a gem. I am hardly saying that he is a MVP candidate. But EVERYONE must admit he is miles further along than most of this board said he would be I realize good guys are hard to pull for these days, but he deserves a shot. The guy busts his butt and that grates on people. LOL. Tony is right on this one. Don't project your bullshit on to me. I could give a shut what religion the man is, and frankly your accusation pisses me off. He's not a very good baseball player. Maybe the one being blinded by his religion is you? And wait. Are you actually saying he deserves a shot over other more talented players because he's a good guy? Because LMFAO, and I mean LMFAO, because you know what? UCF just called and said fuck you.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 18:13:33 GMT -5
Dial it down on the hate. I understand he is a Christian Fundamentalist. But compared to the players in Flushing, he is a gem. I am hardly saying that he is a MVP candidate. But EVERYONE must admit he is miles further along than most of this board said he would be I realize good guys are hard to pull for these days, but he deserves a shot. The guy busts his butt and that grates on people. LOL. Tony is right on this one. Don't project your bullshit on to me. I could give a shut what religion the man is, and frankly your accusation pisses me off. He's not a very good baseball player. Maybe the one being blinded by his religion is you? And wait. Are you actually saying he deserves a shot over other more talented players because he's a good guy? Because LMFAO, and I mean LMFAO, because you know what? UCF just called and said fuck you. Give me a break. I am hardly a evangelical Protestant. In fact, I am as in disagreement with that movement as is possible within Christianity. What I find hysterical is those of you who claim his beliefs have nothing to do with your clear prejudice against him. The guy busts his butt. He has FAR exceeded what so many of you predicted he would accomplish. Have you seen how pathetic that Mets team is? Yes, they could use him and certainly be no worse than they currently are. I wasn't trying to piss anyone off, but when you open yourself up, so be it.
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Post by 75tranzam on Jun 29, 2018 18:25:29 GMT -5
I don't think Tim Tebow will be replacing Yoenis Céspedes in left field anytime soon. Céspedes is on the 10-Day DL and due back the 2nd week of July but the guy is hitting .255 with 8 HR's and is owed 29 million this year, I just don't see the Mets benching him to play a guy who isn't really ready to face MLB pitching.
Are the Mets a hot mess, you betcha but calling up Tebow isn't the answer. If he doesn't produce big that NY press will eat him and the Mets alive.
I think a traditional September call-up would be better for all involved.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 18:33:20 GMT -5
Mets could use any help that they can get. I could care less if they call him up as I can't think of a team I detest more than them. But they might want to try something since they suck so bad. They are the second worst team in the enitre NL.
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Post by BTB07 on Jun 29, 2018 18:37:22 GMT -5
I don’t know if Tebow deserves to be an all star in AA and I don’t know if he should be called up the majors now or in September but I do know it’s good on him to work hard and get better and have some modicum of success when many said he couldn’t.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:10:46 GMT -5
Don't project your bullshit on to me. I could give a shut what religion the man is, and frankly your accusation pisses me off. He's not a very good baseball player. Maybe the one being blinded by his religion is you? And wait. Are you actually saying he deserves a shot over other more talented players because he's a good guy? Because LMFAO, and I mean LMFAO, because you know what? UCF just called and said fuck you. Give me a break. I am hardly a evangelical Protestant. In fact, I am as in disagreement with that movement as is possible within Christianity. What I find hysterical is those of you who claim his beliefs have nothing to do with your clear prejudice against him. The guy busts his butt. He has FAR exceeded what so many of you predicted he would accomplish. Have you seen how pathetic that Mets team is? Yes, they could use him and certainly be no worse than they currently are. I wasn't trying to piss anyone off, but when you open yourself up, so be it. I'm sorry, but exactly what prejudice am I showing here? Because I posted his stats? You are being ridiculous. You want to start with personal shit then do it with someone else, because I have no interest in that crap. There is a reason I no longer post on the poly board.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 19:21:24 GMT -5
How is any of this being personal? Don't blame me for your sensitivity problems. People have disliked this guy since the time he was at Florida. He has been attacked for everything from his religion to his lack of skills as a professional type quarterback. He has been routinely mocked. And you have the nerve to attack me for being too personal? Seriously?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:29:07 GMT -5
How is any of this being personal? Don't blame me for your sensitivity problems. People have disliked this guy since the time he was at Florida. He has been attacked for everything from his religion to his lack of skills as a professional type quarterback. He has been routinely mocked. And you have the nerve to attack me for being too personal? Seriously? I'm sorry, but when you accuse me of hating someone because of their religion? Yeah, that shits personal.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 19:31:54 GMT -5
I am not the one who have over the years routinely brought up his religious views. It has been a normal occurence on this site since he graduated and attempted a try at the NFL. No player in recent memory has been more mocked because of his beliefs than Tebow. If you dispute that, you are blind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:34:37 GMT -5
I am not the one who have over the years routinely brought up his religious views. It has been a normal occurence on this site since he graduated and attempted a try at the NFL. No player in recent memory has been more mocked because of his beliefs than Tebow. If you dispute that, you are blind. I'm sorry, can you kindly show me where *I* have brought up his religious views? The only person on this board I have ever seen bring it up is you, usually on threads like this where people dare say he isn't very good. You've done it more than once. Either way, if you of all people can't understand why the Jewish guy doesn't take to kindly to hating someone because of their religion then I seriously don't know what to tell you.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 19:37:40 GMT -5
Fine, no one has brought up Tebow's beliefs but me. Leave at that if you really believe that bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:40:59 GMT -5
Fine, no one has brought up Tebow's beliefs but me. Leave at that if you really believe that bullshit. Yes, leave it to you to focus on that line and ignore the rest. Fine, the only one to bring it up recently? Better? Now you wanna address the rest, or do you want to keep playing the "what did I do" card?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:47:40 GMT -5
Tebow could find a cure for cancer and diabetes and heart disease and there would still be some who hate him. Ain't going to change. Never have I seen such diabtribe against a guy who is genuinely a good human being simply because of his beliefs. I remain amazed and very disappointed in THIS America. Well, part of that is due to the fact that many of his critics specifically point out his Christianity. Even the racists who hate Obama seldom admit that racial reasons are the reason they hate him. Don't get me wrong, not saying folks on this board have specifically made those charges about Tebow or even Obama...but much of the dislike of Tebow is the mocking of his Christianity and it is quite open. The 2 most recent mentions of Tebow's religion, dating back to October 2016
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 19:52:02 GMT -5
What rest? Before today, when did I bring up anything to do with his religion. A year ago many/most people on this board made nothing but fun of his attempt to try out for baseball. The mockery levels were absurd and there were multiple threads. He has done far better than any of those critics ever believed he would do. Yet never does he get an ounce of credit. For anything. But feel free to point out where I have brought up anyone's religion with regards to him. I am not the one attacking anyone's beliefs so you need to get your eyes fixed if fail to understand that.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 19:53:21 GMT -5
Tebow could find a cure for cancer and diabetes and heart disease and there would still be some who hate him. Ain't going to change. Never have I seen such diabtribe against a guy who is genuinely a good human being simply because of his beliefs. I remain amazed and very disappointed in THIS America. Well, part of that is due to the fact that many of his critics specifically point out his Christianity. Even the racists who hate Obama seldom admit that racial reasons are the reason they hate him. Don't get me wrong, not saying folks on this board have specifically made those charges about Tebow or even Obama...but much of the dislike of Tebow is the mocking of his Christianity and it is quite open. The 2 most recent mentions of Tebow's religion, dating back to October 2016 And please inform me where I am wrong in either of those two posts? I am all ears.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:56:07 GMT -5
What rest? Before today, when did I bring up anything to do with his religion. A year ago many/most people on this board made nothing but fun of his attempt to try out for baseball. The mockery levels were absurd and there were multiple threads. He has done far better than any of those critics ever believed he would do. Yet never does he get an ounce of credit. For anything. But feel free to point out where I have brought up anyone's religion with regards to him. I am not the one attacking anyone's beliefs so you need to get your eyes fixed if fail to understand that. OK. Trying again. I did not bring up his religion in this thread, you did. You did it as an accusation against me. One which you claim isn't personal. I quoted the last two times his religion was brought up, both times by you. I just reread the threads from when he attempted to try out for baseball. None of the comments against him mentioned religion. They mentioned he was a lousy baseball player. But yeah, I'm the blind one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 19:58:16 GMT -5
The 2 most recent mentions of Tebow's religion, dating back to October 2016 And please inform me where I am wrong in either of those two posts? I am all ears. LMAO. Which is it BD, everyone else brings up his religion not you, or you're right when you bring it up? Like I said, if I wanted this nonsense I'd still be on the poly board. You made an accusation with zero basis in reality, I'd like you to kindly retract it, instead of doubling and tripling down on it.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 20:58:25 GMT -5
I don't know. But if you posted the entire context of that October 2016 thread, you will see pretty clearly who the one bringing up religion was. Oct 12, 2016 at 4:54pm Quote Edit like Post Options Post by notdpb on Oct 12, 2016 at 4:54pm BTB07 Avatar Oct 12, 2016 at 2:18pm BTB07 said: The problem with Tebow is people believe an opinion on him is absolute. He was a great college player and clearly a great guy. But when someone would say he isn't a prototypical NFL qb then people took that as diminishing his college career or his character, which it is not. Just like someone saying he won't be an MLB player doesn't diminish anything he accomplished previously in baseball and doesn't mean that they think he isn't a good person (which he clearly is). So it is possible to like Tebow as a person and not believe he was the second coming of a great NFL qb or a great baseball player. Not really possible to argue he is a very good human. I would add to this that it doesn't help that a certain segment of the very same people who mock Obama and those that say that objection to him are rooted in racism are the very same people who try to claim that objections to Tebow are solely because he is an outspoken Christian (including of course, some on this very board). Not all those who wander are lost- J.R.R. Tolkien bigdawgs Global Moderator ***** bigdawgs Avatar Posts: 52,016 Member is Online Publicity Seeking Hound, Tebow At It Again Oct 12, 2016 at 4:58pm bcsbbad likes this Quote Edit like Post Options Post by bigdawgs on Oct 12, 2016 at 4:58pm Well, part of that is due to the fact that many of his critics specifically point out his Christianity. Even the racists who hate Obama seldom admit that racial reasons are the reason they hate him. Don't get me wrong, not saying folks on this board have specifically made those charges about Tebow or even Obama...but much of the dislike of Tebow is the mocking of his Christianity and it is quite open. Read more: sadovin.proboards.com/thread/65945/publicity-seeking-hound-tebow-again#ixzz5Jrxq0fcB
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Post by bigdawgs on Jun 29, 2018 21:07:38 GMT -5
Now, I will retract any comments I made that specifically said you or anyone else on this board was using Tebow's religious choices as a reason for their hate. That was incorrect and inappropriate.
However, I will not at all retract my belief that his religious beliefs are a major part of the dislike much of the media has for him.
I don't know of anyone on this board or pretty much anywhere that has said he is an NFL quarterback or even a major league baseball player. But even when he does little things right, it brings on a chorus of people who are ready to pick it apart.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 21:41:51 GMT -5
All-Star votes and Hall of Fame is just that..... "Fame and Stars"
If it was the "Hall of Stats" or "All Production team".....
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