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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 2:04:37 GMT -5
With Georgia sitting at No. 1 and Alabama expected to fall anywhere between No. 6 and No. 8 in the final CFP rankings of the regular season, there is a case to be made for both teams to miss the playoff if the Tide beat the Dawgs. But it's not a scenario that Finebaum is even willing to entertain: “Over my dead body,” Finebaum said. “That’s not happening, I am not going to allow it Dan. I’ll stand outside that door in Grapevine, Texas and demand it.”Sorry UGA guys, but I am now full on rooting for Bama.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Nov 29, 2023 7:21:54 GMT -5
With Georgia sitting at No. 1 and Alabama expected to fall anywhere between No. 6 and No. 8 in the final CFP rankings of the regular season, there is a case to be made for both teams to miss the playoff if the Tide beat the Dawgs. But it's not a scenario that Finebaum is even willing to entertain: “Over my dead body,” Finebaum said. “That’s not happening, I am not going to allow it Dan. I’ll stand outside that door in Grapevine, Texas and demand it.”Sorry UGA guys, but I am now full on rooting for Bama. You just made “the list”, buddy!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 7:42:25 GMT -5
With Georgia sitting at No. 1 and Alabama expected to fall anywhere between No. 6 and No. 8 in the final CFP rankings of the regular season, there is a case to be made for both teams to miss the playoff if the Tide beat the Dawgs. But it's not a scenario that Finebaum is even willing to entertain: “Over my dead body,” Finebaum said. “That’s not happening, I am not going to allow it Dan. I’ll stand outside that door in Grapevine, Texas and demand it.”Sorry UGA guys, but I am now full on rooting for Bama. You just made “the list”, buddy! Do you have receipts?
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 29, 2023 8:02:55 GMT -5
Having Finebaum die (figuratively speaking) might even be enough to make me holler "R...., well that might be a Bridge Too Far.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 29, 2023 8:23:35 GMT -5
This has been the least chaotic season I can remember in a long time. We never had that one or two weekends when upsets and carnage happened.
I will be rooting for Bama as well, along with Texas, Florida State, Iowa, and Washington (for selfish reasons - Heisman).
Now, to the point of the OP, I don't see how you leave a 1 loss SEC Champ out of the top 4...having said that, how do you justify jumping Bama over Texas should both win.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 8:41:51 GMT -5
This has been the least chaotic season I can remember in a long time. We never had that one or two weekends when upsets and carnage happened. I will be rooting for Bama as well, along with Texas, Florida State, Iowa, and Washington (for selfish reasons - Heisman). Now, to the point of the OP, I don't see how you leave a 1 loss SEC Champ out of the top 4...having said that, how do you justify jumping Bama over Texas should both win. Maybe I am misremembering, but this is the first season that I can think of where at least one team from each (P5) conference has a legit shot at the playoff going into the CCGs, and for 4 out of the 5 conferences 2 different teams have shots.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 29, 2023 8:47:13 GMT -5
This has been the least chaotic season I can remember in a long time. We never had that one or two weekends when upsets and carnage happened. I will be rooting for Bama as well, along with Texas, Florida State, Iowa, and Washington (for selfish reasons - Heisman). Now, to the point of the OP, I don't see how you leave a 1 loss SEC Champ out of the top 4...having said that, how do you justify jumping Bama over Texas should both win. Maybe I am misremembering, but this is the first season that I can think of where at least one team from each (P5) conference has a legit shot at the playoff going into the CCGs, and for 4 out of the 5 conferences 2 different teams have shots. Very good point and I believe you're right. Typically the PAC or ACC have eliminated themselves by this time of year. I would say 3 of the 5 have a shot at 2 different teams. I think only Texas and FSU have a shot in their respective conferences.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 8:48:41 GMT -5
Maybe I am misremembering, but this is the first season that I can think of where at least one team from each (P5) conference has a legit shot at the playoff going into the CCGs, and for 4 out of the 5 conferences 2 different teams have shots. Very good point and I believe you're right. Typically the PAC or ACC have eliminated themselves by this time of year. I would say 3 of the 5 have a shot at 2 different teams. I think only Texas and FSU have a shot in their respective conferences. Right. Sorry. I forgot Louisville lost.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Nov 29, 2023 8:50:47 GMT -5
Very good point and I believe you're right. Typically the PAC or ACC have eliminated themselves by this time of year. I would say 3 of the 5 have a shot at 2 different teams. I think only Texas and FSU have a shot in their respective conferences. Right. Sorry. I forgot Louisville lost. I did not correct you to be a dick as I agreed with your entire post and this didn't change that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 8:56:53 GMT -5
Right. Sorry. I forgot Louisville lost. I did not correct you to be a dick as I agreed with your entire post and this didn't change that. I didn't think you did. I legit forgot that L'ville lost last week, so I was counting the ACC.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Nov 29, 2023 12:11:30 GMT -5
Maybe this weekend brings the chaos - Oregon beating Washington, FSU losing to Louisville, Texas losing, Bama over the Dawgs and finally Iowa over Michigan. Or even a couple upsets in those games.
I remember a two loss LSU getting in the BCS when a couple of unlikely upsets occurred the final week of the season.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Nov 29, 2023 12:12:44 GMT -5
Remember it is not over, until the fat lady sings. And I haven't haven't heard her sing yet.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Nov 29, 2023 12:23:23 GMT -5
Remember it is not over, until the fat lady sings. And I haven't haven't heard her sing yet. Please do not awaken the spirit of CFF. Pretty please do not awaken the spirit of CFF. Oh Lord, pretty, pretty please!!
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Post by NCBulldawg on Nov 29, 2023 12:24:20 GMT -5
You just made “the list”, buddy! Do you have receipts? Just quoting, Psycho, from Stripes!
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 29, 2023 12:35:24 GMT -5
Maybe this weekend brings the chaos - Oregon beating Washington, FSU losing to Louisville, Texas losing, Bama over the Dawgs and finally Iowa over Michigan. Or even a couple upsets in those games. I remember a two loss LSU getting in the BCS when a couple of unlikely upsets occurred the final week of the season. Yeah, but 2007 was the craziest season ever. The polar opposite of what we have seen this season....SO FAR. Kansas was only other Power 5 1 loss team and they did not make their title game. A ton of two loss teams and Ohio State.
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Post by Elapid on Nov 29, 2023 12:52:11 GMT -5
Georgia with a quality win over Auburn by 7 and Bama with their quality win over Auburn by 3? We're talking Auburn who barely made bowl eligible and took a 21 point beatdown from New Mexico State. Neither team has much to brag about after struggling with Auburn the way they did.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Nov 29, 2023 13:26:34 GMT -5
Georgia with a quality win over Auburn by 7 and Bama with their quality win over Auburn by 3? We're talking Auburn who barely made bowl eligible and took a 21 point beatdown from New Mexico State. Neither team has much to brag about after struggling with Auburn the way they did. I will take 45-1, 29 game win streak, beating Auburn by 7(and 16-4 the past 20 games) and being the reigning back to back National Champions as something to "brag" about. And, 12-0 doesn't hurt either!
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Post by ghost on Nov 29, 2023 14:29:44 GMT -5
IF Bama beats UGA barely.. TX wins by 40....... FSU wins by 30..... then it would not be out of the realm of possibility that UGA would drop to #6 and BaMA to #5..... TX would have beat BaMA... #4....
1 Michigan vs. 4 TX 2 Was/Orgon vs. FSU
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Post by dawgggystyle on Nov 29, 2023 15:26:40 GMT -5
IF Bama beats UGA barely.. TX wins by 40....... FSU wins by 30..... then it would not be out of the realm of possibility that UGA would drop to #6 and BaMA to #5..... TX would have beat BaMA... #4.... 1 Michigan vs. 4 TX 2 Was/Orgon vs. FSU you think the committe will allow an SEC-less CFP? i doubt it i am only half kidding
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 29, 2023 16:03:02 GMT -5
I think the committee will have little choice. Even though I think Alabama is currently better than Texas, that cannot override the 10 point Texas win. All these "experts" who argue 4 best and 4 deserving, seem to know who the best are. Problem is, not all of them agree. I thought the purpose of the playoff was to determine who the best is. Negating the Texas win over Bama would be a horrific message to send and make fans wonder why we even go to the trouble of having those much anticipated (and too few) games.
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Post by CFF on Nov 29, 2023 18:20:01 GMT -5
I would like to see an SECless playoff. Hi NCBD!
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Post by bigdawgs on Nov 29, 2023 18:38:36 GMT -5
It has been about a quarter century for some SEC schools.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Nov 29, 2023 18:43:22 GMT -5
Hot damn…that is some nasty movement going on. Gimme…gimme…gimmie some of that good lovin’!!
Damn, cff, you didn’t have to go that far! 😁
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 8:34:48 GMT -5
This has been the least chaotic season I can remember in a long time. We never had that one or two weekends when upsets and carnage happened. I will be rooting for Bama as well, along with Texas, Florida State, Iowa, and Washington (for selfish reasons - Heisman). Now, to the point of the OP, I don't see how you leave a 1 loss SEC Champ out of the top 4...having said that, how do you justify jumping Bama over Texas should both win. This is before last week's games, but the point remains.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Nov 30, 2023 12:52:29 GMT -5
I think the committee will have little choice. Even though I think Alabama is currently better than Texas, that cannot override the 10 point Texas win. All these "experts" who argue 4 best and 4 deserving, seem to know who the best are. Problem is, not all of them agree. I thought the purpose of the playoff was to determine who the best is. Negating the Texas win over Bama would be a horrific message to send and make fans wonder why we even go to the trouble of having those much anticipated (and too few) games. I understand the unwritten rule that if a team loses to another team - the winning team would be ranked ahead of the other team if they have the same win-lost record. But what seems to be forgotten is the fact that teams can improve during the year or decline during the year. I don't like Bama, but they had serious QB problems early in the year. Now they have a pretty good starting QB. And Bama lost to Texas was 11 games ago. A lot changes in 3 months. And FSU - are they the same team without Jordan Travis? I don't think so. That is why I get ticked off when a G5 school goes undefeated and a lot of people think that being undefeated would rank that team ahead of 1 or even 2 lost P5 teams. This has always been a hot topic. Next year we will find out how these G5 teams do against the P5 teams when the playoffs go to 12 teams. Sure there will be an upset ever now and then, but IMO the P5 schools will dominate the G5 schools that make the 12 team playoff format. Is it fair - heck there are a lot of things in this world that are not fair. And never will be.
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Post by CFF on Nov 30, 2023 18:39:29 GMT -5
I think the committee will have little choice. Even though I think Alabama is currently better than Texas, that cannot override the 10 point Texas win. All these "experts" who argue 4 best and 4 deserving, seem to know who the best are. Problem is, not all of them agree. I thought the purpose of the playoff was to determine who the best is. Negating the Texas win over Bama would be a horrific message to send and make fans wonder why we even go to the trouble of having those much anticipated (and too few) games. I understand the unwritten rule that if a team loses to another team - the winning team would be ranked ahead of the other team if they have the same win-lost record. But what seems to be forgotten is the fact that teams can improve during the year or decline during the year. I don't like Bama, but they had serious QB problems early in the year. Now they have a pretty good starting QB. And Bama lost to Texas was 11 games ago. A lot changes in 3 months. And FSU - are they the same team without Jordan Travis? I don't think so. That is why I get ticked off when a G5 school goes undefeated and a lot of people think that being undefeated would rank that team ahead of 1 or even 2 lost P5 teams. This has always been a hot topic. Next year we will find out how these G5 teams do against the P5 teams when the playoffs go to 12 teams. Sure there will be an upset ever now and then, but IMO the P5 schools will dominate the G5 schools that make the 12 team playoff format. Is it fair - heck there are a lot of things in this world that are not fair. And never will be. The "team can improve" argument is another way of saying that game didn't count.
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Post by CFF on Nov 30, 2023 18:47:13 GMT -5
I think the committee will have little choice. Even though I think Alabama is currently better than Texas, that cannot override the 10 point Texas win. All these "experts" who argue 4 best and 4 deserving, seem to know who the best are. Problem is, not all of them agree. I thought the purpose of the playoff was to determine who the best is. Negating the Texas win over Bama would be a horrific message to send and make fans wonder why we even go to the trouble of having those much anticipated (and too few) games. I understand the unwritten rule that if a team loses to another team - the winning team would be ranked ahead of the other team if they have the same win-lost record. But what seems to be forgotten is the fact that teams can improve during the year or decline during the year. I don't like Bama, but they had serious QB problems early in the year. Now they have a pretty good starting QB. And Bama lost to Texas was 11 games ago. A lot changes in 3 months. And FSU - are they the same team without Jordan Travis? I don't think so. That is why I get ticked off when a G5 school goes undefeated and a lot of people think that being undefeated would rank that team ahead of 1 or even 2 lost P5 teams. This has always been a hot topic. Next year we will find out how these G5 teams do against the P5 teams when the playoffs go to 12 teams. Sure there will be an upset ever now and then, but IMO the P5 schools will dominate the G5 schools that make the 12 team playoff format. Is it fair - heck there are a lot of things in this world that are not fair. And never will be. Boise beat UGA, Oklahoma, Oregon State, Iowa State, Oregon, VT, Arizona State, Washington, Arizona, Virginia, Washington State, and Florida State. They have only been FBS since 1997. Who says you can't build a program.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Nov 30, 2023 19:20:08 GMT -5
I understand the unwritten rule that if a team loses to another team - the winning team would be ranked ahead of the other team if they have the same win-lost record. But what seems to be forgotten is the fact that teams can improve during the year or decline during the year. I don't like Bama, but they had serious QB problems early in the year. Now they have a pretty good starting QB. And Bama lost to Texas was 11 games ago. A lot changes in 3 months. And FSU - are they the same team without Jordan Travis? I don't think so. That is why I get ticked off when a G5 school goes undefeated and a lot of people think that being undefeated would rank that team ahead of 1 or even 2 lost P5 teams. This has always been a hot topic. Next year we will find out how these G5 teams do against the P5 teams when the playoffs go to 12 teams. Sure there will be an upset ever now and then, but IMO the P5 schools will dominate the G5 schools that make the 12 team playoff format. Is it fair - heck there are a lot of things in this world that are not fair. And never will be. The "team can improve" argument is another way of saying that game didn't count. So you are saying that a team can improve, but you would not acknowledge them for the improvement.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Nov 30, 2023 19:26:27 GMT -5
The good P5 schools get the best recruits and they will continue to do so. It is hard for a G5 school to get 5 star recruits. The outstanding high school players - IMO sign with the good P5 schools.
Good coaching can help narrow the talent gap. But the problem - if a G5 coach has a good record - they won't be at that G5 school long.
Point your head coach at Tennessee.
And your dream comes true next year - there will at least one G5 school, maybe two in the NC playoffs.
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Post by CFF on Nov 30, 2023 20:58:55 GMT -5
The good P5 schools get the best recruits and they will continue to do so. It is hard for a G5 school to get 5 star recruits. The outstanding high school players - IMO sign with the good P5 schools. Good coaching can help narrow the talent gap. But the problem - if a G5 coach has a good record - they won't be at that G5 school long. Point your head coach at Tennessee. And your dream comes true next year - there will at least one G5 school, maybe two in the NC playoffs. Most head coaches have came from smaller schools. Why would they stay without a chance to win?
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