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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jan 12, 2024 9:04:39 GMT -5
Football recruiting staffers at the University of Georgia routinely drove rented vehicles after consuming alcohol, according to court documents filed Thursday by attorneys representing a former staffer who was seriously injured in a January 2023 car wreck that killed a Bulldogs player and another staff member. In an amended complaint filed in state court in Gwinnett County (Georgia), the attorneys also alleged that UGA assistant football coaches used cash to pay for recruiting expenses during unofficial recruiting visits, which could be a violation of NCAA rules. The amended complaint alleged that "text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol." "Association coaches and staff regularly drank alcohol at UGA football Coach Kirby Smart's residence during recruiting events, and then, in Association SUVs, returned recruits' families and guests back to their lodging," the complaint said. "The Association and UGA coaches were well aware that involved alcohol, in Association SUVs."The amended complaint included a Dec. 14, 2019, text message purportedly sent to 13 staff members by then-UGA director of player personnel Marshall Malchow that said: "Hey guys... if you are driving you can have fun at Coach Smarts but if you are driving a recruit make sure you don't get drunk. It will be a bad look if we have people who are supposed to be driving recruits getting lit." In a Feb. 22, 2022, text message, another athletic association employee told recruiting staff members that an associate athletic director said to turn a downtown Athens restaurant "into a bar with [recruits'] families and don't leave." "My client's iPhone survived the crash fully intact and contains thousands of pages of recruiting texts describing the inner workings of UGA's recruiting activities," Bowles' attorney, Rob Buck, said in a statement to ESPN. "The new texts included in the Amended Complaint establish that the Association was fully aware recruiting staffers were regularly allowed to drive recruits and their families around Athens after drinking alcohol at Association sponsored events. Some texts even show that football coaches and recruiting supervisors, in effect, encouraged staffers to drink with football prospects' families. "The texts contradict the Association's pleadings and public statements to its fan base. The texts document that the Association knowingly allowed football staffers to drive Association SUVs while drinking even if UGA had policies stating otherwise." The amended complaint also alleges that Bowles is aware of UGA football coaches using cash in recruiting activities involving unofficial visits. NCAA rules prohibit coaches and staff members from paying for expenses for recruits and their families during unofficial visits, including lodging, meals, entertainment and travel costs. Bowles' original complaint said Bulldogs assistant coach Chidera Uzo-Diribe asked her to use his ATM card to get $1,000 in cash at a recruiting dinner during an unofficial recruiting visit on Jan. 14, 2023. The ATM card didn't work, so she drove to her home to get money. The complaint said Uzo-Diribe paid her back via Venmo. The athletic association previously said in a statement that it assumed the cash was for Uzo-Diribe's personal use. link
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jan 12, 2024 9:07:44 GMT -5
How has this asshole not been held accountable for his actions. This is serious, I mean people have died.
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Post by tonythegator on Jan 12, 2024 9:22:23 GMT -5
Sounds like Kirby's favorite recruiting tool is alcohol. Get them drunk so they don't realize they are signing up to be a nut-licker.
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Post by athens on Jan 12, 2024 11:10:39 GMT -5
First, nice click bait title.
Trying to not sound biased but I am sure you will take it that way:
1. Where exactly does the article state that Kirby allowed staff to drink and drive drunk?
2. Allowing someone to have a drink and later drive is in no way illegal, no more so than having a drink with dinner at a restaurant and then driving home.
3. Are you surprised that the attorney suing UGA is trying to paint them in the worst light possible, regardless of the facts?
3a. As evidenced by the attorney bringing something completely unrelated to the case into the conversation in an additional effort to smear UGA.
I think I will wait for some actual proof before I start crucifying people.
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Post by tonythegator on Jan 12, 2024 11:16:29 GMT -5
First, nice click bait title. Trying to not sound biased but I am sure you will take it that way: 1. Where exactly does the article state that Kirby allowed staff to drink and drive drunk? 2. Allowing someone to have a drink and later drive is in no way illegal, no more so than having a drink with dinner at a restaurant and then driving home. 3. Are you surprised that the attorney suing UGA is trying to paint them in the worst light possible, regardless of the facts? 3a. As evidenced by the attorney bringing something completely unrelated to the case into the conversation in an additional effort to smear UGA. I think I will wait for some actual proof before I start crucifying people. Expected response from a nut-licker.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jan 12, 2024 11:23:35 GMT -5
Trying to not sound biased but I am sure you will take it that way:
Correct
1. Where exactly does the article state that Kirby allowed staff to drink and drive drunk?
Read the Article
2. Allowing someone to have a drink and later drive is in no way illegal, no more so than having a drink with dinner at a restaurant and then driving home.
Read the Article, not only was it allowed, its appears it was encouraged.
3. Are you surprised that the attorney suing UGA is trying to paint them in the worst light possible, regardless of the facts?
No, just like Im not surprised with your response(s)
3a. As evidenced by the attorney bringing something completely unrelated to the case into the conversation in an additional effort to smear UGA.
As expected
I think I will wait for some actual proof before I start crucifying people.
Nothing will happen here because he recruits well and wins...so good move on your part.
For some perspective, Remember, Harbaw was crucified and Sanctioned for buying a recruit a Hamburger.
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Post by athens on Jan 12, 2024 11:47:36 GMT -5
The amended complaint included a Dec. 14, 2019, text message purportedly sent to 13 staff members by then-UGA director of player personnel Marshall Malchow that said: "Hey guys... if you are driving you can have fun at Coach Smarts but if you are driving a recruit make sure you don't get drunk. It will be a bad look if we have people who are supposed to be driving recruits getting lit."
Specifically says not to get drunk
I read the article multiple times, I am still looking for anywhere in the report it says they were allowed to drive drunk. Maybe you can use your super special reading skills to highlight it for me?
Also still waiting for an answer as to why having a drink and then driving is illegal. Are you saying that there should be a zero allowance policy for staff? That is way different than saying they were encouraged to drink to the point of intoxication and then encouraged to drive.
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Post by tonythegator on Jan 12, 2024 11:50:14 GMT -5
Shouldn't this thread be pinned?
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jan 12, 2024 12:05:47 GMT -5
The amended complaint included a Dec. 14, 2019, text message purportedly sent to 13 staff members by then-UGA director of player personnel Marshall Malchow that said: "Hey guys... if you are driving you can have fun at Coach Smarts but if you are driving a recruit make sure you don't get drunk. It will be a bad look if we have people who are supposed to be driving recruits getting lit."Specifically says not to get drunk I read the article multiple times, I am still looking for anywhere in the report it says they were allowed to drive drunk. Maybe you can use your super special reading skills to highlight it for me? Also still waiting for an answer as to why having a drink and then driving is illegal. Are you saying that there should be a zero allowance policy for staff? That is way different than saying they were encouraged to drink to the point of intoxication and then encouraged to drive. So you didnt read the article, gotcha. The amended complaint alleged that "text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol."
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Post by 75tranzam on Jan 12, 2024 12:15:50 GMT -5
Shouldn't this thread be pinned? I don't think so, the two biggest UGA trolls managed to post on it just fine...
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jan 12, 2024 12:16:25 GMT -5
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jan 12, 2024 12:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jan 12, 2024 12:21:26 GMT -5
Troll? lol...okay, copy that. What's your favorite color? (Be careful how you answer. Might get flung off the bridge.)
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Post by athens on Jan 12, 2024 12:22:57 GMT -5
The amended complaint included a Dec. 14, 2019, text message purportedly sent to 13 staff members by then-UGA director of player personnel Marshall Malchow that said: "Hey guys... if you are driving you can have fun at Coach Smarts but if you are driving a recruit make sure you don't get drunk. It will be a bad look if we have people who are supposed to be driving recruits getting lit."Specifically says not to get drunk I read the article multiple times, I am still looking for anywhere in the report it says they were allowed to drive drunk. Maybe you can use your super special reading skills to highlight it for me? Also still waiting for an answer as to why having a drink and then driving is illegal. Are you saying that there should be a zero allowance policy for staff? That is way different than saying they were encouraged to drink to the point of intoxication and then encouraged to drive. So you didnt read the article, gotcha. The amended complaint alleged that "text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol."Are you sure you did? I still don't don't see where it says anyone was drunk, encouraged to get drunk, or otherwise intoxicated. I will ask again, are you calling for a zero allowance policy on any drinking for staff?
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Post by MtnTiger on Jan 12, 2024 12:59:24 GMT -5
So you didnt read the article, gotcha. The amended complaint alleged that "text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol."Are you sure you did? I still don't don't see where it says anyone was drunk, encouraged to get drunk, or otherwise intoxicated. I will ask again, are you calling for a zero allowance policy on any drinking for staff? When hosting and transporting recruits and their families??? 1000% yes. No alcohol at all. I can’t believe you would think otherwise. I wouldn’t let my kid sign with a school that allowed staff to consume any alcohol and then transport my son.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2024 13:08:57 GMT -5
Troll? lol...okay, copy that. What's your favorite color? (Be careful how you answer. Might get flung off the bridge.) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jan 12, 2024 13:36:52 GMT -5
Troll? lol...okay, copy that. What's your favorite color? (Be careful how you answer. Might get flung off the bridge.) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? The airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow is roughly 20.1 miles per hour.
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Post by Elapid on Jan 12, 2024 14:16:17 GMT -5
Troll? lol...okay, copy that. What's your favorite color? (Be careful how you answer. Might get flung off the bridge.) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? What color Swallow?
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Post by erock72 on Jan 12, 2024 14:53:11 GMT -5
Troll? lol...okay, copy that. What's your favorite color? (Be careful how you answer. Might get flung off the bridge.) What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow? Are there coconuts involved?
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Post by CFF on Jan 12, 2024 17:58:45 GMT -5
So you didnt read the article, gotcha. The amended complaint alleged that "text messages show that on occasion supervisors and coaches, in effect, encouraged recruiting staff to drink alcohol with football prospects' families-well aware that staffers would leave the events after consuming alcohol."Are you sure you did? I still don't don't see where it says anyone was drunk, encouraged to get drunk, or otherwise intoxicated. I will ask again, are you calling for a zero allowance policy on any drinking for staff? It appears there already is a school policy.
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Post by athens on Jan 12, 2024 21:13:05 GMT -5
Let's recap:
First, this is a click bait thread title, nowhere does the attorney himself even imply, much less outright say, that Kirby "routinely allowed staff to drink and drive drunk"
Then, he states that the families (ie parents) of the recruits were present (and apparently consenting) of the transportation with the staffers.
Next, the attorney even quotes a text where staffers are explicitly told NOT to get drunk. I guess "have fun" can be up to interpretation, but it's definitely just an assumption to say that means they were condoning drinking at all.
Then, to prove this is not simply about whether staffers have driven recruits families around after having a drink, he chooses to bring completely unrelated accusations for no other reason than to try and defame UGA. (They could be completely true and against NCAA regs, but that is a whole separate discussion).
And we are supposed to believe all of this from the guy suing the university for millions of dollars for his client (who was absolutely without question participating in drunken driving activities).
He is trying to make it sound like (and many on here seem to buy it) the staffers were doing keg stands in Kirby's back yard and then going on joy rides with the full approval of Kirby and his coaches. (Not that it is impossible, but there is absolutely no proof of anything of the sort). Having a glass of wine or a beer with the parents of a recruit and then giving them a ride later is a totally different thing than chugging a 6 pack and taking off an hour later.
I have not seen or read the school policy in question, if anyone has a copy feel free to post it. If Kirby knowingly violated or encouraged his staffers to violate it, then yes he should be held accountable by the university (what that would entail I do not know). But I would still stand by the statement that we should put the pitchforks and torches away until some kind of substantial proof comes to light and not just take the word of an attorney and his client who stand to profit tremendously from defaming Kirby and the university.
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