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Post by cff on Sept 3, 2007 13:41:11 GMT -5
Teddy, Michigan can still win the Big 10 and go to a BCS bowl.
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Post by loadtoad on Sept 3, 2007 13:45:37 GMT -5
Teddy, Michigan can still win the Big 10 and go to a BCS bowl. Now you are just talking crazy CFF!
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Post by USCGamecocks on Sept 3, 2007 13:46:45 GMT -5
Hey LT, I need PSU to pound ND. I'll drink to that.
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Post by cff on Sept 3, 2007 13:49:35 GMT -5
Teddy, Michigan can still win the Big 10 and go to a BCS bowl. Now you are just talking crazy CFF! What is crazy about that? The Big 10 has 4 teams with a realistic shot at the CC, and Michigan has not played the first conference game. OOC gets too much credit.
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Post by loadtoad on Sept 3, 2007 13:51:47 GMT -5
Now you are just talking crazy CFF! What is crazy about that? The Big 10 has 4 teams with a realistic shot at the CC, and Michigan has not played the first conference game. OOC gets too much credit. I agree CFF. Just giving you a hard time. But I still believe PSU beats UM in the Big House also
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Post by loadtoad on Sept 3, 2007 13:53:58 GMT -5
Hey LT, I need PSU to pound ND. I'll drink to that. I'm not seeing that as a problem. Weis still does not have a QB to lead his team. PSU's LB's will cause them fits all day. One of the best secondaries in the nation will be ready for their bad decisions. Going to be a long week. Can't wait till Saturday night on ESPN!
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Post by cff on Sept 3, 2007 13:59:30 GMT -5
I hope that PSU beats Michigan. Every team deserves a losing season once in a while. Has Michigan ever had one?
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Post by teddydupay4 on Sept 3, 2007 14:08:49 GMT -5
Yes. It's been a long while though, hence the bowl streak. They've had some bad teams (2005 being the most recent, 5 losses) but one thing Michigan fans hold dear is that bowl streak. That's one of those records we don't want to see fall, and not just b/c there'd be nowhere to travel in December or January.
I don't think any team "deserves" a losing season. But in every game, someone has to lose. Obviously teddy, you dumbass. The thing is, I don't know where we'd get the wins. I guess over teams that just go in expecting to lose b/c they lose all the time? That's all I can figure. I think this next week will determine whether we lose 3-4 games or 7-8. If they show last week was an aberration and bring the determination to prove people wrong that they had last season, they could sneak out the required 6-8 wins. If not, Carr won't make it thru the season.
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Post by Elapid on Sept 3, 2007 14:25:14 GMT -5
Teddy I do feel sorry for you. I was starting to understand how you felt after the first three quarters of the Auburn game. I am embarrassed with Auburn taking the field with their pants around their ankles. Auburn won the game, but they didn't deserve it any more than Michigan did. I hope both of our teams can get their shit together before next weekend. Michigan did take on a worthy opponent as ASU has been champions in their division for two years now. Again I do feel sorry for you and your team, but I think it is time for Lloyd Carr to hit the door. I'm old school and expect the old school power teams to represent quality every year.
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Post by teddydupay4 on Sept 3, 2007 14:28:12 GMT -5
Yeah, and he had 20 more scholarships to work with than ASU.
As for Auburn...WOW, what a game. They hit the gas right @ that time when they had to. When they got the ball for that final drive, I turned to my girlfriend and said "here comes a TD, guaren-fuckin-teed." Boom. Everyone was talking about how Auburn might have a tough time with defense this year. Looks like they sorted that shit out rather easily.
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Post by ksuwolverine on Sept 3, 2007 14:35:17 GMT -5
ksuwolverine, excuse me for trying. I won't make that mistake again. I was just messing with you. Sorry, that it didn't come off that way. I know that having your team highly ranked in the preseason and then losing 4 or 5 games seems like it would be comparable to what happened to Michigan on Saturday, but it's just not. I know exactly what you must have felt during your 2003 season. In 2005 Michigan started the year ranked #4 and ended up 7-6. We lost to Minne-fucking-sota and a bad Nebraska team. Terrible feeling but just not the same as losing to a D1AA school.
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Post by teddydupay4 on Sept 3, 2007 14:45:38 GMT -5
Yeah, as a fan of some genuinely horrid teams (anyone hear of a team called the Detroit Lions), I've seen some pretty garrish losses. Nothing is as bad as this one though. NOtta thing.
If I were any of you, I'd be glad that I personally don't pull for your team. The Lions have always sucked, the Red Wings have a picture in the dictionary next to the word "choke" the Tigers are falling apart and the Pacers went from one of the best front offices in sports to arguably the worst in the history of the world. Invading Poland worked out better for Germany in the long run than hiring Larry Bird.
I mean, it's all over the place. I hear people that don't even FOLLOW college football talking about it casually. When we bombed Iraq I didn't hear as much chatter about that event for crissakes as I do now about this football game.
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Post by smilesid on Sept 3, 2007 16:03:13 GMT -5
Teddy, As we discussed on CBS, Mich. was the exception that proves the rule. 73 d-1 teams scheduled 1-aa games, and 70 of them will win. They did it to pad the home schedule, pick up an easy win, to be bowl eligible, give the 2nd & 3rd team a chance to get playing time, bring in a big paycheck with another home game, take on a team that doesn't demand a home & home, etc. etc. Mich. had the bad karma to pick the best 1-aa, two time champion, 15 game winning streak, who simply wanted the game more. I disagree with those who say that it is just a matter of Michigan being pathetic.
But I still say that the nonsense of most BCS powers scheduling two or three blood donor home games has GOT to stop. How about Michigan going to Boone, NC for the rematch?
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Post by USCGamecocks on Sept 3, 2007 16:05:39 GMT -5
So you are saying BCS teams should have a difficult schedule like Boise State?
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Post by redstick13 on Sept 3, 2007 16:06:25 GMT -5
That would be very sweet to see.
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Post by teddydupay4 on Sept 3, 2007 16:13:12 GMT -5
No it wouldn't. I hear they play tough @ home. We might lose by 70.
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Post by atldawg272 on Sept 4, 2007 11:47:01 GMT -5
I commend you for coming online to take the punishment so soon after the loss. I guess it was bound to happen eventually. If it weren't for that game, Al Groh would be on the hottest seat to start the season. That officially belongs to Lloyd Carr for now.
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 11:50:57 GMT -5
I think that Carr was already on the hot seat, now he has grill marks.
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Post by ksuwolverine on Sept 4, 2007 12:25:30 GMT -5
I think that Carr was already on the hot seat, now he has grill marks. Along with some skid marks. You know he crapped his pants when that fieldgoal was blocked.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 12:34:55 GMT -5
teddy, I actually know exactly how you feel. Remember two seasons ago my ranked Badger basketball team got beat AT HOME by North Dakota State (a team that was still in their probationary period transition into D1 basketball) and NDSU wasn;t even good, I mean while UM getting beat in football might be getting more publicity the truth is NDSU beating Wisconsin in Madison in bball was a far bigger upset and was right on scale with the embarassment level. But hey I am here to tell you from experience that time and a few good wins heels the wound and this will all be behind you, until this just happened I had actually almost all but forgotten that loss to NDSU, and when Wisky was 29-1 and #1 in the nation last year in the regular season in bball no one was talking about that gaem anymore, no one. So don;t worry, you;ll get over it, hopefully UM wipes the floor with Oregon and ND and you will be all but past it then
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 12:44:34 GMT -5
I am so glad that basketball has a tournament, otherwise we would have to hear the garbage of how good Wisconsin basketball is.
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Post by slaton10 on Sept 4, 2007 12:51:54 GMT -5
Tedddy... Two things...It may or may not be the case...but some of these coaches that have been around for awhile, the Paterno's. Carr's. Bowdens and so on have lost their fire...They are no more than figure heads who no how to talk on the banquet circuit and hire others to recruit and do the real coaching...totally disconnected with the 18 year old kids coming into the programs of these schools...It is the young and hungry innovative guys...yes like RICH ROD...who are the knew generation that makes the world go around these days...And it permeates thru the entire BIG 10...they all recruit the 500 lb offensive lineman and run a semi proset offense with big slow footed QB's and power running backs...those days are gone...thats why Ohio St got killed by a new generation offense...If your entire conference doesn't change their style of play...An APPY State game will happen again...
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 12:53:51 GMT -5
What's wrong with Wisky bball? I'd say they are pretty good, nine straight NCAA tourney appearances (only like 6 other schools can currently say that), since 2000 or seven seasons ago they've won two Big Ten titles, finished second twice, third once and fourth twice (so their consistantly at the top of a legit conference), they've won a Big Ten tourney title and been to the final game three times, they were ranked #1 at point in the regular season, they've been to the final four once, the elite eight twice, the sweet sixteen three times, and have only been ousted in the first round once, I mean outside of the teams who have actually won the national title in that time period (which is tough, I think what, five teams have won it since 2000) tell me what teams have been better than UW since the turn of the century, there can't be many (and by the way there are 336 D1 teams, so when your done counting the remote handful of teams that might ave been better, you;ll notice relative to the field the Badgers have been darn good)
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 12:57:55 GMT -5
Ugh, give me a break, OSU lost and Florida was the better team that day but it wasn;t cause they were slow and it wasn't cause they couldn;t compete, give me a break. The Big Ten will be fine, how has Wisky beaten the last two SEC teams it ihas faced in bowl games, how did PSU beat the tar out of UT last year, how did a bad Iowa team give Texas all it could handle in Texas last year, losses happen but the Big Ten is fine, I kow WVU is on a high note right now but try and sustain the success OSU and UM have had for even anoterh four years and then you can say how the Big Ten as a whole conference needs to "change", come on
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 13:00:39 GMT -5
Kaara, you are hallucinating. PSU did beat UT last year, but to say they beat the snot out of them is crazy. You must have still been drunk from the night before.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 13:06:38 GMT -5
I said "tar" not "snot" and the game I saw UT got waxed in all facets of the game, must have been watching a different game than you CFF
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 13:10:38 GMT -5
One turnover in the fourth quarter lost the game for UT.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 13:18:33 GMT -5
One turnover So it wasn;t Tony Hunt's 150+ yards of rushing, or the THREE turnovers PSU forced, or UT's inability to run the football against PSU's defense, or the fact that UT's defense made Morelli (who looked terrible all year) look like an all conference QB. Geez, how wrong I was, apparently it was just one single turnover that cost UT the game, my apologies.
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 13:20:11 GMT -5
UT had the ball in the fourth quarter and was on the way to score when they turned over the ball and PSU scored. Apology accepted.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 13:41:50 GMT -5
I notice PSU won the game by two scores though, and boy I always thought turnovers were a facet of the game. I can;t tell you how glad I am you are here CFF to point out where I keep going wrong, phew
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