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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 13:44:01 GMT -5
7 more points for UT/7less for PSU, now do the math. I would say that would be 17-13.
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Post by Buckeye Dave on Sept 4, 2007 13:46:39 GMT -5
One turnover in the fourth quarter lost the game for UT. I agree. And one injury cost OSU the national championship.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 13:55:45 GMT -5
But of course, because if not for the turnover we know defnitively that UT defnitely would have scored a touchdown if not for the turnover, I mean they were scoring at will on every single drive that day right and I mean there was no way PSU would have scored in answer to that, I mean god knows UT's defense was just impenetrable that day. Again your clairvoyance has cast light on the shadows
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Post by bcsbbad on Sept 4, 2007 14:22:36 GMT -5
cff/kaara - I was actually sober during that game and also fell asleep a couple of times out of boredom - I really didn't feel like either team really wanted to be there. Some stats to chew on - 1st downs 19-17 - PSU wins, rushing 183-83 - PSU wins, passing 25-37-1 267 to 14-25-0 250 - UT wins - only stat that counts - 20-10 - PSU wins. It was last year - who really cares about that this year.
Of course I'm sure somebody does.
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Post by loadtoad on Sept 4, 2007 14:30:05 GMT -5
One turnover So it wasn;t Tony Hunt's 150+ yards of rushing, or the THREE turnovers PSU forced, or UT's inability to run the football against PSU's defense, or the fact that UT's defense made Morelli (who looked terrible all year) look like an all conference QB. Geez, how wrong I was, apparently it was just one single turnover that cost UT the game, my apologies. Don't forget about PSU's secondary shutting down the highly talented UT wr's.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 14:49:47 GMT -5
I'm just messin with him, he took an off the cuff remark that I made to use as a general point and he took it and ran off in a different direction, so i merely made my obligatory contradictary remarks cause CFF loves to debate, frankly I could really careless about that game (Wisconsin didn't play in it, right? Ok thought so, so no i don;t care about it)
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 15:22:26 GMT -5
Using your scenario kaara, if UT had only scored 3 it would have still been a tie.
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 15:25:13 GMT -5
They were at the 12 yard line when Foster fumbled the ball.
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Post by loadtoad on Sept 4, 2007 15:27:18 GMT -5
They were at the 12 yard line when Foster fumbled the ball. Isn't that what Defenses do, force turnovers?
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 15:28:16 GMT -5
Only in this case it was not forced.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 15:32:41 GMT -5
Every action has an equal or greater reaction CFF, we have absolutely no idea what would have happened in that game if he wouldn't have fumbled when and where he did, for all we know PSU might have went on to win 24-17, the FACT is he did and they won 20-10 and won in basically every other statistical category (beating deadhorse emoticon)
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 15:44:59 GMT -5
They did win in the only one that mattered. All other stats are only good for debate. But is was not the "tar" beatdown of which you described earlier.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 15:47:01 GMT -5
Your right it wasn't a tar beat down, it was more like they were beaten like "red headed step children"
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 15:47:40 GMT -5
You are mistaken, that would be Ohio State.
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Post by kaara on Sept 4, 2007 15:51:14 GMT -5
You know what, maybe I keep thinking of the last time PSU and UT played, wasn't that like 1995 or something, what was the score of that one again, that's probably it
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Post by loadtoad on Sept 4, 2007 18:10:25 GMT -5
Take your pick:
Penn State has beaten Tennessee in three consecutive bowl games: the 1992 Fiesta Bowl (42-17), the 1994 Florida Citrus Bowl (31-13) and the 2007 Outback Bowl (20-10).
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Post by cff on Sept 4, 2007 20:44:33 GMT -5
Take your pick: Penn State has beaten Tennessee in three consecutive bowl games: the 1992 Fiesta Bowl (42-17), the 1994 Florida Citrus Bowl (31-13) and the 2007 Outback Bowl (20-10). But we own PSU in the regular season.
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Post by kaara on Sept 5, 2007 15:42:58 GMT -5
PSU and UT have played a grand total of five times, PSU has won three (the three mentioned above) and UT has won two, the two they won came in 1971 and 1972 at home in Tennessee.....way to "own them"
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Post by cff on Sept 5, 2007 21:43:45 GMT -5
kaara, try to see the humor in the above posts. Laugh, you will live longer.
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Post by kaara on Sept 6, 2007 11:15:43 GMT -5
I laugh alot when things are funny, didn't I give you kudos in that other thread/post for being funny, this just wasn't funny, that's all
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Post by cfbfan on Sept 6, 2007 19:56:23 GMT -5
The sad thing is, I think the entire program owes an apology to the rest of the Big 10 for embarassing it. No matter what they do...whether they go 0-12 or 11-1, this loss won't leave them. Which sucks, b/c maybe ASU deserves better than that. You know Delaney is crossing his fingers hoping, praying that Michigan doesn't make a run in the Big 10. B/c for them to finish in the top even HALF of it...you know he'd hear "well, ASU woulda finished @ least (insert number above Michigan's standing here) in the Big 10...har har har."
I thought a little about this today and wondered how many of us would still bet on Michigan if we had to if say Auburn, Texas or Virginia Tech had to play a game in Ann Arbor this season? I just picked those teams cause they kind of struggled last week and I think I'd probably put my money on Michigan. I'm not sure who I'd favor in some other matchups involving Mi and some top 20 teams, especially in Ann Arbor, guess we'll know more in December.
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