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Post by dawgggystyle on Oct 24, 2023 12:12:22 GMT -5
now videos of him indicating pass to the players on the field on the first drive of the OSU game. Soooooooooooooo, he already had/knew the signals.
This is vacate wins bad.
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Post by ghost on Oct 24, 2023 12:29:59 GMT -5
thats pretty clear.... wow... so...... vacate all wins the last 5 years? fire staff, show cause...... ?
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Post by ghost on Oct 24, 2023 12:31:32 GMT -5
a) i guess we are really happy Michigan didn't win the title last year...
b) its pretty clear they didn't have TCU scouted like everyone else..... thus explains the completely ass whopping
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 24, 2023 12:35:20 GMT -5
a) i guess we are really happy Michigan didn't win the title last year... b) its pretty clear they didn't have TCU scouted like everyone else..... thus explains the completely ass whopping "Complete ass whopping"? 51-45
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Post by athens on Oct 24, 2023 12:37:28 GMT -5
a) i guess we are really happy Michigan didn't win the title last year... b) its pretty clear they didn't have TCU scouted like everyone else..... thus explains the completely ass whopping Wrong team
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Post by ghost on Oct 24, 2023 12:41:35 GMT -5
a) i guess we are really happy Michigan didn't win the title last year... b) its pretty clear they didn't have TCU scouted like everyone else..... thus explains the completely ass whopping "Complete ass whopping"? 51-45 yup. 21-6 at half.... i mean, yeah Michigan had a good comeback... but 3-13 on 3rd.. 0-2 on 4th.... gave up over 260 on the ground..... it was an ass whopping... a closer one in the end sure... but they get beat up. They didn't know the signals its clear now... and it shows... they couldn't stop TCU. UGA did without breaking a sweat.
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Post by MtnTiger on Oct 24, 2023 12:43:19 GMT -5
now videos of him indicating pass to the players on the field on the first drive of the OSU game. Soooooooooooooo, he already had/knew the signals. This is vacate wins bad. Nothing short of the death penalty is a reasonable punishment for these cheaters.
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Post by dawgggystyle on Oct 24, 2023 12:44:50 GMT -5
now videos of him indicating pass to the players on the field on the first drive of the OSU game. Soooooooooooooo, he already had/knew the signals. This is vacate wins bad. Nothing short of the death penalty is a reasonable punishment for these cheaters. Long as Harbaugh looks like an asshole, im fine with the outcome
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 24, 2023 13:33:25 GMT -5
"Complete ass whopping"? 51-45 yup. 21-6 at half.... i mean, yeah Michigan had a good comeback... but 3-13 on 3rd.. 0-2 on 4th.... gave up over 260 on the ground..... it was an ass whopping... a closer one in the end sure... but they get beat up. They didn't know the signals its clear now... and it shows... they couldn't stop TCU. UGA did without breaking a sweat. Yes TCU won. Yes it was an upset. Ass whopping? Michigan had more first downs, more yardage, more time of possession. Michigan had the ball trailing by 6 in the last minute. My friend, just because Texas Tech regularly gets asswhopped, doesn't mean that game was an asswhopping.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Oct 24, 2023 16:37:33 GMT -5
Sometimes the internet delivers!
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 24, 2023 20:46:58 GMT -5
ANDREW MCCARTY20 MINUTES AGO
On Tuesday night, ESPN reported more damning evidence involving Michigan staffer Connor Stalions amid the program's sign stealing probe.
According to the report from college football insider Pete Thamel, Stalions allegedly bought tickets to four non-Big Ten programs in College Football Playoff contention. He also allegedly bought tickets to the SEC title games in 2021 and 2022.
"There also is record of Stalions buying tickets to the 2021 and 2022 SEC title games, sources told ESPN," Thamel reported. "The tickets to the SEC title games were purchased on the secondary market, according to sources."
Not long before the latest allegations emerged, Georgia head coach Kirby Smart was asked about Michigan's sign stealing scandal. Smart suggested he didn't think the Wolverines were cheating in that game - but his comment has been taken as a shot at Jim Harbaugh and company.
"There's nothing I remember about the Michigan game that makes me think that [happened]," he said via Georgia reporter Jordan Davis Hill.
Fans think he was taking a shot at the Wolverines.
"‘I don’t think about you at all’ energy," one fan said.
"This one cut deeper than a million buckeye fans whining about cheating. But I respect it just as much also," said one Michigan fan.
"Bro just basically called us ass which I can’t blame him after that game," joked another.
Georgia took out Michigan by a score of 34-11 in the Orange Bowl in 2021 so Kirby isn't exactly wrong.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 24, 2023 20:48:41 GMT -5
Another example of modern social media. Watching Smart's comments didn't reflect any sort of knock on Harbaugh. He simply said he did not remember anything that Michigan might have done in that game. Goodness, basically he said he had no comment on what is going on with Michigan.
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Post by GoBigRed203 on Oct 25, 2023 5:16:15 GMT -5
Sad thing is that Michigan really can just out talent most of the Big Ten in football games.
But what do I know?
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Post by 75tranzam on Oct 25, 2023 7:48:31 GMT -5
Another example of modern social media. Watching Smart's comments didn't reflect any sort of knock on Harbaugh. He simply said he did not remember anything that Michigan might have done in that game. Goodness, basically he said he had no comment on what is going on with Michigan. I agree with BD. Kirby doesn't have a reputation like Mullen or even Drinkwitz have of popping off in interviews about perceived slights. My guess is the Michigan team and fans of the team have circled the wagons in defense and are sensitive to all comments now.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 25, 2023 8:32:43 GMT -5
This whole thing is beginning to look like a 3 Stooges Movie. Goodness, leaving a trail that even Inspector Clouseau could figure out.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 25, 2023 8:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by ghost on Oct 25, 2023 10:59:01 GMT -5
yup. 21-6 at half.... i mean, yeah Michigan had a good comeback... but 3-13 on 3rd.. 0-2 on 4th.... gave up over 260 on the ground..... it was an ass whopping... a closer one in the end sure... but they get beat up. They didn't know the signals its clear now... and it shows... they couldn't stop TCU. UGA did without breaking a sweat. Yes TCU won. Yes it was an upset. Ass whopping? Michigan had more first downs, more yardage, more time of possession. Michigan had the ball trailing by 6 in the last minute. My friend, just because Texas Tech regularly gets asswhopped, doesn't mean that game was an asswhopping. you will argue with me no matter what.... you TDS has now going to GDS..... geez... and since when does yards mean a damn thing to you? 15 years i talk about how TTU's stats stats stats and get told they mean nothing.... yes i know the score was closer... but TCU gave the Mich D and ass whooping. Their O played for 1/2 a game....
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 25, 2023 12:30:41 GMT -5
Yes TCU won. Yes it was an upset. Ass whopping? Michigan had more first downs, more yardage, more time of possession. Michigan had the ball trailing by 6 in the last minute. My friend, just because Texas Tech regularly gets asswhopped, doesn't mean that game was an asswhopping. you will argue with me no matter what.... you TDS has now going to GDS..... geez... and since when does yards mean a damn thing to you? 15 years i talk about how TTU's stats stats stats and get told they mean nothing.... yes i know the score was closer... but TCU gave the Mich D and ass whooping. Their O played for 1/2 a game.... I don't argue for the sake of arguing. I just get attracted to idiotic statements. And you happen to be a target rich environment.
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Post by bilogle on Oct 25, 2023 12:32:57 GMT -5
you will argue with me no matter what.... you TDS has now going to GDS..... geez... and since when does yards mean a damn thing to you? 15 years i talk about how TTU's stats stats stats and get told they mean nothing.... yes i know the score was closer... but TCU gave the Mich D and ass whooping. Their O played for 1/2 a game.... I don't argue for the sake of arguing. I just get attracted to idiotic statements. And you happen to be a target rich environment. me too.... except when I do it, I am accused to trolling the poor little martyr ghost
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 25, 2023 15:08:21 GMT -5
Another example of modern social media. Watching Smart's comments didn't reflect any sort of knock on Harbaugh. He simply said he did not remember anything that Michigan might have done in that game. Goodness, basically he said he had no comment on what is going on with Michigan. I agree with BD. Kirby doesn't have a reputation like Mullen or even Drinkwitz have of popping off in interviews about perceived slights. My guess is the Michigan team and fans of the team have circled the wagons in defense and are sensitive to all comments now. Now, Dan Lanning, well that might be a different story Post See new posts Conversation James Crepea @jamescrepea Dan Lanning said he didn’t have a lot of thoughts on Michigan in-game scouting Oregon last season: “Ultimately, I think that’ll all sort itself out.” Re: if anything was unusual about 2021 Orange Bowl vs Michigan after it scouted SECCG: “I just remember the result of that game.”
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 25, 2023 17:35:20 GMT -5
Looks like it was not another school who went to the NCAA:
Last week, the NCAA launched an investigation into Michigan's football program for an alleged sign-stealing scheme. According to The Washington Post, this investigation was sparked by an outside firm.
Per the report, an investigative firm approached the NCAA with documents and video obtained from computer drives that were accessed by multiple Michigan coaches. Apparently, the evidence suggests that analyst Connor Stallions wasn't the only staff member who played a role in all of this.
The evidence collected by this firm included a "detailed schedule of Michigan’s planned sign-stealing travel for the rest of this season." This schedule apparently listed which games Michigan scouts would attend.
From the report:
The opponents targeted the most on this schedule, these people said, were not surprising. Atop the list was Ohio State, Michigan’s top rival in the Big Ten, and scouts planned to attend as many as eight games, costing more than $3,000 in travel and tickets. Next on the list was Georgia, a potential Michigan opponent in the College Football Playoff, with four or five games scheduled for in-person scouting and video-recording, also costing more than $3,000 in travel and tickets.
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Post by bigdawgs on Oct 25, 2023 17:39:02 GMT -5
United States Naval Academy Honor Code:
We tell the truth and ensure the truth is known. We do not lie. We embrace fairness in all actions. We ensure that work submitted as our own is our own, and that assistance received from any source is authorized and properly documented.
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Post by 75tranzam on Oct 25, 2023 19:32:33 GMT -5
NCAA probe began after firm obtained evidence from Michigan computers www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/10/25/michigan-computers-sign-stealing-evidence/The sign-stealing investigation threatening to disrupt Michigan’s football season began after an outside investigative firm approached the NCAA with documents and videos the firm said it had obtained from computer drives maintained and accessed by multiple Michigan coaches, according to two people familiar with the matter, evidence that suggests the scandal’s impact could broaden beyond the suspension of one low-level assistant. Sign up for The Sports Moment, a newsletter for the biggest sports news Those people spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about an ongoing NCAA investigation. They did not disclose who hired the outside firm that approached the NCAA. The NCAA, the Big Ten and Michigan declined to comment Wednesday. Last week, the Big Ten confirmed published reports that the NCAA was investigating allegations that Michigan had sent people connected to its football program to attend games of opponents and videotape coaches as they signaled in plays, in violation of the rules that govern college football. Michigan suspended Connor Stalions, a football assistant ESPN reported was suspected of overseeing the alleged sign-stealing operation. Head coach Jim Harbaugh, in a statement, denied any knowledge of or involvement in any such scheme. While NCAA rules do not explicitly prohibit sign-stealing — the practice of decoding signals that opposing coaches use to send in play calls to players on the field — the organization does ban video-recording opposing coaches as well as in-person scouting of upcoming opponents. And according to the investigation conducted by this outside firm, Michigan football has been using a sign-stealing operation involving both in-person scouting as well as video-recording coaches, those people said, since at least last season, when the team went 13-1, winning a second consecutive Big Ten title before losing in the College Football Playoff semifinals. The outside firm’s investigation began this season, those people said, and involved interviews with people knowledgeable about Michigan’s scouting operations as well as reviewing documents and videos related to sign-stealing efforts. On Oct. 17, those people said, the firm presented its evidence to top NCAA officials. The next day, the Big Ten later confirmed, the NCAA informed the conference and Michigan that it had opened an investigation. Stalions played a major role in overseeing and coordinating sign-stealing efforts, the outside investigation found, but the firm’s evidence suggested he wasn’t acting alone. The outside firm did not present any evidence directly linking Harbaugh to the sign-stealing operation, according to the people with knowledge. In the days since Stalions’s name circulated as a key figure in the investigation, videos and photos circulated on social media taken during Michigan games showing him standing near coaches, including the team’s defensive and co-offensive coordinators. Among the pieces of evidence the firm presented, those people said, was a detailed schedule of Michigan’s planned sign-stealing travel for the rest of this season, listing opponents’ schedules, which games Michigan scouts would attend and how much money was budgeted for travel and tickets to scout each team. The opponents targeted the most on this schedule, these people said, were not surprising. Atop the list was Ohio State, Michigan’s top rival in the Big Ten, and scouts planned to attend as many as eight games, costing more than $3,000 in travel and tickets. Next on the list was Georgia, a potential opponent in the College Football Playoff, with four or five games scheduled for in-person scouting and video-recording, also costing more than $3,000 in travel and tickets. In total, those people said, Michigan’s sign-stealing operation expected to spend more than $15,000 this season sending scouts to more than 40 games played by 10 opponents. According to the university’s public salary disclosure records, Stalions, listed as an administrative specialist in the athletic department, made $55,000 in 2022. Stalions did not reply to a message left at a phone number listed to him seeking comment. Stalions is a graduate of the Naval Academy and a captain in the Marine Corps who started working as an analyst for Michigan football last season, according to a profile from January 2022 published on the website Soldiers to Sidelines. The outside firm also presented to NCAA officials photographs of people investigators believed to be Michigan scouts in action — including current students interning with the football team. The photos showed these people seated at games of Michigan opponents this season, aiming their cellphones at the sidelines. Days later, the outside firm told the NCAA, cellphone videos depicting the coaching staffs from these games were uploaded to a computer drive maintained and accessed by Stalions as well as several other Michigan assistants and coaches. No timeline has been disclosed for when the NCAA could conclude its investigation. Harbaugh, in his statement, said he and his staff will “fully cooperate” with the NCAA probe. The news came just months after an earlier NCAA investigation concluded with a finding that Harbaugh violated recruiting rules and failed to cooperate with investigators. The university suspended Harbaugh for three games at the start of this season as a result. Michigan again is competing for a national title under Harbaugh, having started the season 8-0. On Saturday, the Wolverines’ first game since the allegations of sign-stealing emerged, they thrashed rival Michigan State, 49-0. Michigan’s next game is against visiting Purdue on Nov. 4.
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Post by ghost on Oct 25, 2023 20:57:29 GMT -5
So...... vacate all CJH wins, bowl ban for 4 years, lose 15 scholarships for 4 years?
All stat fired and hit with show cause or banned?
I mean, you got wgat appears to be a large dedicated cheating ring spanning the program for years.
How do you adjudicate this?
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Post by ghost on Oct 25, 2023 20:58:10 GMT -5
Starting to see the scoop of this and why when MSU was told they nearly refused to play....
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Post by ghost on Oct 25, 2023 21:01:47 GMT -5
WHAT IF? ? JUST WGAT IF this gets bigger? What if......... the signs that were stolen were....... wait for it....... found to have been SOLD TO OTHER PROGRAMS.... by a low level staffer not committed to UM like the others.... What if..... they Recorded TCU during the game, broke it down, sold it to UGA.... THUS explaining the 65-7 final? UGA had the signs!!!! 😂😂😂😂🌋🎤💧
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Post by NCBulldawg on Oct 25, 2023 21:11:09 GMT -5
WHAT IF? ? JUST WGAT IF this gets bigger? What if......... the signs that were stolen were....... wait for it....... found to have been SOLD TO OTHER PROGRAMS.... by a low level staffer not committed to UM like the others.... What if..... they Recorded TCU during the game, broke it down, sold it to UGA.... THUS explaining the 65-7 final? UGA had the signs!!!! 😂😂😂😂🌋🎤💧 Ummmm...Georgia cared what Defense TCU was in?? HAHAHAHAHA...LOL...
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Post by ghost on Oct 26, 2023 10:47:00 GMT -5
WHAT IF? ? JUST WGAT IF this gets bigger? What if......... the signs that were stolen were....... wait for it....... found to have been SOLD TO OTHER PROGRAMS.... by a low level staffer not committed to UM like the others.... What if..... they Recorded TCU during the game, broke it down, sold it to UGA.... THUS explaining the 65-7 final? UGA had the signs!!!! 😂😂😂😂🌋🎤💧 Ummmm...Georgia cared what Defense TCU was in?? HAHAHAHAHA...LOL... Just saying.... how far fetched is that the Stallons guy made a quick score at the end of the year by selling UGA assistant his info on TCU? possibly out of retaliation for beating them..... or he knew the jig was up.... UGA would never say a thing... he wouldn't either... Mich didn't know he did it..... he had big ambitions as starting a scouting firm.. plus if it ever did come out, the NCAA would just bury it since the SEC and UGA would then be caught up in it... so it would go away...
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Post by dawgggystyle on Oct 26, 2023 10:48:22 GMT -5
Ummmm...Georgia cared what Defense TCU was in?? HAHAHAHAHA...LOL... Just saying.... how far fetched is that the Stallons guy made a quick score at the end of the year by selling UGA assistant his info on TCU? possibly out of retaliation for beating them..... or he knew the jig was up.... UGA would never say a thing... he wouldn't either... Mich didn't know he did it..... he had big ambitions as starting a scouting firm.. plus if it ever did come out, the NCAA would just bury it since the SEC and UGA would then be caught up in it... so it would go away... what if it was just the worst dick kicking in championship game history?
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Post by ghost on Oct 26, 2023 10:57:37 GMT -5
Just saying.... how far fetched is that the Stallons guy made a quick score at the end of the year by selling UGA assistant his info on TCU? possibly out of retaliation for beating them..... or he knew the jig was up.... UGA would never say a thing... he wouldn't either... Mich didn't know he did it..... he had big ambitions as starting a scouting firm.. plus if it ever did come out, the NCAA would just bury it since the SEC and UGA would then be caught up in it... so it would go away... what if it was just the worst dick kicking in championship game history? .......... and MICH was actually a 7-5 team that cheated its way in? where a lucky TCU team that should have lost 5 games then exposed them?.... only to get rocked by a team that actually deserved to be in the CFBPO? thats really a much more likely factual assessment.
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