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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jul 28, 2021 9:55:23 GMT -5
The one's who wear brown.  |
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 28, 2021 9:57:48 GMT -5
Not sure arrogant is the term I would use. "Different" might be more accurate.  |
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 12:10:44 GMT -5
LOL I tried posting this at 4am this bring and couldn't find the link.. hilarious. |
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 28, 2021 13:52:08 GMT -5
No love for dem Horns. And sure none from me. I was always more of an Aggie fan than a Horn fan.
I have been to one game in Austin in my 54 years in Texas. The best part of that game was the Baylor moscot - a live bear - would chug a lug a Dr. Pepper from a bottle.
But the Tigers are my only true football love.
Geaux Tigers.
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 16:40:46 GMT -5
Well.... Now i gotta root for 11 SEC teams.... great... As long as TAMU,, OU, UT loses i will cheer for the opposing team.
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 16:50:00 GMT -5
BOOM... well then this just happened.... ESPN in trouble.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 28, 2021 18:02:17 GMT -5
Dying cries from Big 12.
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 18:14:57 GMT -5
I get that.... but there could be a BILLION$ lawsuit... If they can prove tampering, along with a ton of other charges... could be big. |
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 18:18:25 GMT -5
getting worse...
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 18:19:09 GMT -5
Tamperoring, conspiracy, racketeering.... lots of nice words being thrown out there.....
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 28, 2021 18:29:24 GMT -5
By the time this is over, this thread will rival the covid thread.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 28, 2021 18:52:25 GMT -5
Paul Myerberg
Steve Berkowitz
USA TODAY
The Big 12 Conference has sent ESPN a letter demanding the network refrain from communicating with its current membership or with other Football Bowl Subdivision leagues regarding its member schools, in the latest turn in the expansion drama kicked off by Texas and Oklahoma's projected departure for the SEC.
According to Yahoo Sports, which first reported the contents of the letter, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby accused ESPN of having been "actively engaged in discussions with at least one other conference regarding that conference inducing additional members of the Big 12 Conference to leave the Big 12 Conference."
The network is "intentionally interfering with our business operations by encouraging other conferences to poach the members of the Big 12 and providing incentives to them to do so," Bowlsby told USA TODAY Sports.
"In my estimation, it’s clearly a tortuous interference with business, and so the cease and desist letter is intended to have that effect," he said.
"But we're prepared to do what we need to to protect our business rights.”
The Big 12 has proof that ESPN would like another league to "take three to five of our members," said Bowlsby.
"It's not so much about the taking of the members, what it does — and what it's intended to do — is destabilize the Big 12 so that it implodes, thus absolving OU and Texas of their grant of rights obligations and their exit fee obligations. If the Big 12 fails to exist as an entity, they can move quicker and they can do so for less money.”
In a statement to USA TODAY Sports, ESPN said "the claims have no merit."
The network was not involved in Texas or Oklahoma contacting the SEC about possible inclusion, according to a person familiar with the rights deal. The person was granted anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.
In directing its attention on the network, the Big 12 is taking aim at the largest power broker in college sports. ESPN has broadcast deals with each of the Power Five leagues and owns rights to nearly every bowl game and the television rights to the entirety of the College Football Playoff.
"This is putting ESPN on notice that (the Big 12) may sue ESPN at some point in the future if Oklahoma and Texas leave the Big 12 before the grant of rights expires," Mit Winter, a lawyer who has served as outside counsel to college athletic conferences, told USA TODAY Sports.
"Threatening to sue ESPN is going to sour the relationship between the Big 12 and ESPN if the Big 12 continues to exist. I assume ESPN is not going to be happy about receiving that kind of letter.”
This will likely ultimately comes down to “how much the Big 12 is willing to settle or whether it’s going to draw a line in the sand," Winter said. "There are some issues with suing UT or OU because of sovereign immunity. It’s hard to sue a state entity.”
The letter reflects the new reality for the conference, which is set to lose its two national brands. The only paths at hand for the Big 12 are to maintain an eight-team roster or expand, with both options requiring that potential expansion fodder such as Kansas and West Virginia remain members of the conference rather than join the Big Ten or ACC.
ESPN agreed to a deal late last year with the SEC, ending that league's longstanding relationship with CBS via a 10-year deal worth roughly $300 million annually with a scheduled effective date of 2024. With the Sooners and Longhorns in the fold, SEC revenue could reach upwards of $1.3 billion during the 2024-25 fiscal year, according to research conducted by USA TODAY Sports.
The league's forceful response to this month's expansion news comes days after the Longhorns and Sooners officially informed the Big 12 of their plans not to join the conference's next grants of media rights agreement, which would begin in 2025.
That statement was followed by an official request to join the SEC signed by the Oklahoma and Texas university presidents, which drew the SEC's first public acknowledgment of the mutual interest between the nation's strongest conference and two of college football's historic powers.
Follow colleges reporter Paul Myerberg on Twitter @paulmyerberg and Steve Berkowitz @byberkowitz
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 28, 2021 18:53:33 GMT -5
If anyone believes that ESPN did not play a huge role in this whole deal, belief in the tooth fairy is a given.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jul 28, 2021 18:56:36 GMT -5
If anyone believes that ESPN did not play a huge role in this whole deal, belief in the tooth fairy is a given. Hold on a tomato pickin' minute here, whatdoya mean, "...belief in the tooth fairy is a given"? There isn't a tooth fairy? |
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 28, 2021 19:57:16 GMT -5
I get that.... but there could be a BILLION$ lawsuit... If they can prove tampering, along with a ton of other charges... could be big. No. The B12 is just trying to get OU and UT to wait until 2025 to leave. No contract has been breached so the Big12 has no basis to claim damages. They are just tying to fend off other conferences from raiding them. However, it’s counterproductive because it ensures no major network will be bidding against fox for the next tv contract and also stops the Big12 from adding members of another conference in a breach of contract situation. Worst case scenario for ESPN is just having to wait out the Big12. |
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 22:09:55 GMT -5
If ESPN talked to Big12 schools or other conferences about their wishes to make other confterencrs then it’s a chargeable offense
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 28, 2021 23:41:30 GMT -5
I don't think it comes to any charges being filed. The Big 12 is pulling out all the stops but I don't see it going anywhere.
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 29, 2021 5:49:26 GMT -5
If ESPN talked to Big12 schools or other conferences about their wishes to make other confterencrs then it’s a chargeable offense It’s not a criminal matter. If there was no breach of contract there were no damages. This is just a desperate measure from Bowlsby, but it’s his job. |
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 29, 2021 8:03:20 GMT -5
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jul 29, 2021 9:22:16 GMT -5
Texas is slowly rapidly moving up into Gump territory. |
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 29, 2021 9:36:34 GMT -5
Sans victories.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 29, 2021 10:03:30 GMT -5
The OBC speaks:
Andrew Olson | 13 hours ago
Texas is not yet an official member of the SEC, but the Longhorns are already on the receiving end of Steve Spurrier zingers.
Spurrier was asked for his thoughts about the hottest story in college sports during a Wednesday Zoom call with reporters.
“I can understand Texas jumping over,” Spurrier said. “They get to play Texas A&M again. … They can’t win the Big 12 anyway. I think they’ve only won two in the last 30 years or so. So I can see Texas jumping over — more money, playing A&M, this, that and the other…”
Spurrier’s numbers are off just a tad. The Big 12 played its first conference championship game in 1996, which Texas won. The Longhorns also won the conference title in 2005 and 2009 for 3 in the last 25 years. Texas entered the Big 12 coming off of Southwest Conference titles in 1994 (co-champions) and 1995.
Spurrier should certainly remember Texas’ 1996 conference title. The Longhorns’ upset over Nebraska in the Big 12 Championship Game helped clear the way for Florida’s rematch with Florida State in the national championship game.
Spurrier said he’s somewhat surprised that the Sooners are making the move to the SEC.
“They are the champion of the Big 12. I mean, they win it almost every year. They’ve won what, 4, 5 in a row, something like that?” Spurrier said. “I just don’t think they are going to come over to the SEC and win with any regularity the way they win the Big 12. Their fans, they may say, ‘Yeah, now we can beat Alabama and LSU and all these dudes.’ It may not happen like that.”
“It’s obviously more money,” Spurrier continued. “I feel sad for the other (Big 12) schools – Kansas State, Kansas, Iowa State and all those guys. They obviously need those two schools there. But, looks like it’s gonna happen. Maybe it will work out for the best.”
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 10:35:53 GMT -5
So The Claim by the Big12 is that ESPN has been trying to negotiate with the ACC and Pac for other Big12 teams ignorer to break the league up sooner and get UT and OU to the SEC faster. Basically to get them to OFFER 3-4 schools a deal now and end the Big12's ability to survive..... with FOX has the Big12...
seems like a big deal. maybe not.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 29, 2021 11:06:19 GMT -5
So Ghost, if the PAC offers TTU a chance to join them - do they bolt away from the Big 12?
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 29, 2021 11:06:42 GMT -5
I would think in a heartbeat.
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 11:11:21 GMT -5
why would the PAC want TUTU?
asking for a friend...
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 29, 2021 11:13:10 GMT -5
why would the PAC want TUTU? asking for a friend... I posted that to see what Ghost's reaction would be. I think his posts would take a different direction. |
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 29, 2021 11:15:03 GMT -5
And if the PAC chooses to expand, who would they invite. I don't really know what requirements they would look for in new potential members.
Do you?
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 11:43:47 GMT -5
And if the PAC chooses to expand, who would they invite. I don't really know what requirements they would look for in new potential members. Do you? I do not... and I can't find them either names I have heard: Okie St, BYU & SDSU have the best chances, TCU or Baylor are possibilities, along with Kansas & KSU, and Boise who has no chance |
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Post by tophb21 on Jul 29, 2021 13:03:06 GMT -5
And if the PAC chooses to expand, who would they invite. I don't really know what requirements they would look for in new potential members. Do you? I do not... and I can't find them either names I have heard: Okie St, BYU & SDSU have the best chances, TCU or Baylor are possibilities, along with Kansas & KSU, and Boise who has no chance Why would SDSU have a great chance but not Boise? Just curious on that. |
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