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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 13:15:34 GMT -5
I do not... and I can't find them either names I have heard: Okie St, BYU & SDSU have the best chances, TCU or Baylor are possibilities, along with Kansas & KSU, and Boise who has no chance Why would SDSU have a great chance but not Boise? Just curious on that. I have heard they would add to the conf in football only, whereas SDSU has strong hoops and baseball in addition to football could be wrong |
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 13:52:29 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions.
You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jul 29, 2021 14:10:01 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions. You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters. Would this be considered Tamperoring, conspiracy, racketeering? Asking for Bil. |
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 14:21:26 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions. You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters. now, I really do need you to cite a source... |
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 29, 2021 14:48:50 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions. You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters. Would this be considered Tamperoring, conspiracy, racketeering? Asking for Bil. Makes it sound like a RICO investigation. |
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 14:50:42 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions. You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters. Would this be considered Tamperoring, conspiracy, racketeering? Asking for Bil. Just following OU/UT's rules... KN had a meeting with the Big10 already... |
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 15:14:44 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions. You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters. now, I really do need you to cite a source... Enrollment: www.collegeevaluator.com/ncaa-conferences/big-12-conference/enrollment/Smartest, Brand power, ROI, ROI scary (TTU ranked 8/OSU 7 but not were it counts. : universitybenchmarks.com/Big_Twelve_Conference_Academic_Rankings.htmlBest Home filled advantage: thedailytexan.com/2020/05/07/ranking-big-12-schools-with-best-home-field-advantage/Lubbock, TX: 253,851 Stillwater, OK: 49,952 Basically they are tied in most all areas... but Texas Tech, is in TEXAS..... Texas Tech has multiple campus across the State o Teams, New mexico. Geographically our fan imprint and footpricne is 3x4 times larger than OKstates. |
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 15:17:21 GMT -5
Oh... and the closest Airpiort to Stillwater is 70 miles away according to Google...
gonna be a bitch getting in and out.... Lubbock has its own Airport.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 29, 2021 15:22:11 GMT -5
Texas Tech is the #1 choice for the Pac12. They are already in discussions. You can hate all ou want.. but TTU's national footprint, 40,000+ enrollment, location, Research institutional status, and entire athletic program is #1 among all suiters. now, I really do need you to cite a source... Come on bil - Ghost is the source. |
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 15:31:19 GMT -5
now, I really do need you to cite a source... Enrollment: www.collegeevaluator.com/ncaa-conferences/big-12-conference/enrollment/Smartest, Brand power, ROI, ROI scary (TTU ranked 8/OSU 7 but not were it counts. : universitybenchmarks.com/Big_Twelve_Conference_Academic_Rankings.htmlBest Home filled advantage: thedailytexan.com/2020/05/07/ranking-big-12-schools-with-best-home-field-advantage/Lubbock, TX: 253,851 Stillwater, OK: 49,952 Basically they are tied in most all areas... but Texas Tech, is in TEXAS..... Texas Tech has multiple campus across the State o Teams, New mexico. Geographically our fan imprint and footpricne is 3x4 times larger than OKstates. show me something regarding the 'discussions'.... |
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 15:31:53 GMT -5
now, I really do need you to cite a source... Come on bil - Ghost is the source. <sigh> I know... I know... |
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 15:35:53 GMT -5
show me something regarding the 'discussions'.... You can subscribe to redraidersports.com and pay just like everyone else. |
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 29, 2021 16:13:36 GMT -5
It seems to me that the biggest drawing factor for inviting a new team into an existing conference is how good is the football team? In the past, the Big 10 stressed education rankings. That might not hold true this time around. The big juicy contracts being offered are for football coverage.
Oklahoma wins and Texas is living on past glory. But Texas still has the drawing power for TV ratings.
Texas Tech is average or below average in college football. They have not had a good teams since Leach left. Four winning seasons in the ll since Leach left. Three 8-5 seasons and one 7-6 season. Sure they have good basketball teams and baseball teams, but it is football that gets the juicy TV contracts.
Oklahoma State has winning seasons in the past 11 seasons.
There are probably other reasons - but IMO it is the way the football team is evaluated.
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 16:13:52 GMT -5
show me something regarding the 'discussions'.... You can subscribe to redraidersports.com and pay just like everyone else. so... nothing...? more made up sh** |
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Post by MtnTiger on Jul 29, 2021 17:31:39 GMT -5
SEC formally extends invitation to OU and Texas. Vote is 14-0.
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 17:35:54 GMT -5
You can subscribe to redraidersports.com and pay just like everyone else. so... nothing...? more made up sh** Fucking google it man. There are 100,000 tweets and threads all across ht internet, post on social media about "_____ school talking to _____ conference"... its not fucking rocket science. You have to admit the obvious... that if I was not on this damn sight, and if i didn't disagree with pretty much every stance you have in life, you would not give a FUCK if Texas Tech went to the Pac12, and would likely be all for it and discussion amongst your friends the benefits there of... Put aside bias and shit towards people on this board and discuss actual options like a grown person once in a while... damn. |
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 17:41:04 GMT -5
SEC formally extends invitation to OU and Texas. Vote is 14-0. Yup.... and now law firms are all lining up to get rich as the shit storm and legislators are starting their engines to get involved and try to make sure their school has a soft place to land. The last go around of Expansion... No P5 school was "left out".... in fact only G5 teams stepped up the last 20+ years...... This will be the first time a P5 school/schools will have the real possibility of being crushed financially and comeditviely. Expect a shit load of lawsuits. this can not be overstated or dismissed. If every Big12 school ends a P5 home, then everything is good. They will eventually get more money than the Big12..... But it just takes 1 or 2. Unless, ESPN is suggesting that they will PAY "the AAC $35million a year" for taking the left over Big12 schools".... but then not cut out others to make room... but that would be the only way to avoid lawsuits and states filing legislation. |
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Post by bilogle on Jul 29, 2021 18:17:32 GMT -5
so... nothing...? more made up sh** Fucking google it man. There are 100,000 tweets and threads all across ht internet, post on social media about "_____ school talking to _____ conference"... its not fucking rocket science. You have to admit the obvious... that if I was not on this damn sight, and if i didn't disagree with pretty much every stance you have in life, you would not give a FUCK if Texas Tech went to the Pac12, and would likely be all for it and discussion amongst your friends the benefits there of... Put aside bias and shit towards people on this board and discuss actual options like a grown person once in a while... damn. most of the shit out there is nothing more than hopeful conjecture and prognostication... very little real news to work with... the PAC commissioner said the conf was not looking to expand... I will wait until he says something else you want TUTU in the PAC only because no other P5 makes sense.... maybe Conf USA or Mountain West would be a better fit competition-wise |
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jul 29, 2021 19:42:09 GMT -5
Not sure what this word means, but I like it...
comeditviely
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Post by MtnTiger on Jul 29, 2021 20:03:05 GMT -5
SEC formally extends invitation to OU and Texas. Vote is 14-0. Yup.... and now law firms are all lining up to get rich as the shit storm and legislators are starting their engines to get involved and try to make sure their school has a soft place to land. The last go around of Expansion... No P5 school was "left out".... in fact only G5 teams stepped up the last 20+ years...... This will be the first time a P5 school/schools will have the real possibility of being crushed financially and comeditviely. Expect a shit load of lawsuits. this can not be overstated or dismissed. If every Big12 school ends a P5 home, then everything is good. They will eventually get more money than the Big12..... But it just takes 1 or 2. Unless, ESPN is suggesting that they will PAY "the AAC $35million a year" for taking the left over Big12 schools".... but then not cut out others to make room... but that would be the only way to avoid lawsuits and states filing legislation. They need a breach to file a lawsuit, or at least have a chance at a successful lawsuit. Some will be filed, none will be successful. You really think that the SEC hasn’t dotted all the I’s and crossed all the t’s? |
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Post by destinnevadafan on Jul 29, 2021 21:33:09 GMT -5
SEC formally extends invitation to OU and Texas. Vote is 14-0. I was waiting for some confirmation before posting about my feelings. I'm a Sooner born. Dad broke our tv when Billy Sims fumbled against Nebraska. I've got lots of stories from my youth but this is about joining the SEC. First of all I can't stand the losers of the conference shouting SEC,SEC. Not manly. I'm honestly not ecstatic about this move....for one IMPORTANT reason...Texas. Texas is OUR bitch...now we have to share in some southern orgy. I admire quality programs i.e Alabama,Georgia,Florida and LSU for different reasons. My Oklahoma fits with the SEC, Texass does not. I've spent too many years of my life tied to these assholes. OU fans and SEC fans are football diehards. Texass thinks their the Harvard of the south. Education is important and winning football games are important. Texas got all confused somewhere. I look forward to the future playing you guys. Its gonna be fun!!! But, damn did you have let Texas in.....? |
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 29, 2021 21:52:27 GMT -5
You don't hear that SEC chant much anymore. When one school became so dominant, I think the passion for yelling for a rival began to fade. Frankly, I have heard UGA fans yelling UGA plenty of times, but don't recall hearing SEC in years. You would have thought our fans might have yelled it at ND in 2017 and in the Rose Bowl against you guys...but all I ever heard was UGA. I agree, it is weak.
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Post by ghost on Jul 29, 2021 22:04:35 GMT -5
I’m looking forward to losing to new teams and I CAN NOT STAND OU....... THE FUCKING BAND WONT STFU EVERY 5 SECONDS THEY PLAY THAT DAMN SHIT.
honestly would not bother me to take the remaining 7 Big12 and join the MWC or AAC.... in the new playoff mode just winning will get you there and with that conference being honest you can still get there with an AAC with that many average P5 level teams....
Baseball and basketball will still be beast no matter where we go.
It’s just the TV money that is the issue now.
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Post by athens on Jul 30, 2021 9:20:20 GMT -5
I would just as soon have Okie St as Texas
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Post by ghost on Jul 30, 2021 10:46:47 GMT -5
Per RRS Pay Site lead managing Editor and radio host Chris Level..
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* I have been told that the Pac-12’s desire to be in the Central Time Zone is very real. If this is true, this is obviously great news for Texas Tech and Oklahoma State in my opinion.
* Do not rule out or dismiss the idea of the ACC for Texas Tech or any other remaining Big 12 member.
* It might be a last resort for some but if this league remains together in some fashion, expect scheduling alliances to be pursued with the Pac-12 or ACC. Those would be guaranteed games versus those leagues and a potentially completely separate rights deal to add revenue.
* I had one person tell me yesterday that many believe Texas and Oklahoma were involved and working closely with ESPN on behalf of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State recently. The thought was that it eases political pressure in the two states and also ultimately dissolves the league so UT and OU would be off the hook on exit fees.
* Once it becomes clear (officially) how quickly Texas and Oklahoma are out of this league, things could start to play out fairly quickly. That means we could be looking at a timeline of weeks, not months, on learning the immediate and long term future of the remaining eight Big 12 institutions."
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I heard from eh bringing that UT and OU were "helping" with finding a home for TTU and OKstate in order to make this go well.... that is apparently part of the issue that the Big12 was having with ESPN and the C&D order....
Romors on this "help" include: "OOC garuntees with both teams and the games being carried on the Pac12 TV deal"
"Other OOC games with Pac teams with UT/OU "
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Post by banned on Jul 30, 2021 10:54:11 GMT -5
Per RRS Pay Site lead managing Editor and radio host Chris Level.. " * I have been told that the Pac-12’s desire to be in the Central Time Zone is very real. If this is true, this is obviously great news for Texas Tech and Oklahoma State in my opinion. * Do not rule out or dismiss the idea of the ACC for Texas Tech or any other remaining Big 12 member. * It might be a last resort for some but if this league remains together in some fashion, expect scheduling alliances to be pursued with the Pac-12 or ACC. Those would be guaranteed games versus those leagues and a potentially completely separate rights deal to add revenue. * I had one person tell me yesterday that many believe Texas and Oklahoma were involved and working closely with ESPN on behalf of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State recently. The thought was that it eases political pressure in the two states and also ultimately dissolves the league so UT and OU would be off the hook on exit fees. * Once it becomes clear (officially) how quickly Texas and Oklahoma are out of this league, things could start to play out fairly quickly. That means we could be looking at a timeline of weeks, not months, on learning the immediate and long term future of the remaining eight Big 12 institutions." ***************** I heard from eh bringing that UT and OU were "helping" with finding a home for TTU and OKstate in order to make this go well.... that is apparently part of the issue that the Big12 was having with ESPN and the C&D order.... Romors on this "help" include: "OOC garuntees with both teams and the games being carried on the Pac12 TV deal" "Other OOC games with Pac teams with UT/OU " The PAC will be good for TUTU. Another mediocre team in a mediocre conference. |
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Post by ghost on Jul 30, 2021 11:15:58 GMT -5
Per RRS Pay Site lead managing Editor and radio host Chris Level.. " * I have been told that the Pac-12’s desire to be in the Central Time Zone is very real. If this is true, this is obviously great news for Texas Tech and Oklahoma State in my opinion. * Do not rule out or dismiss the idea of the ACC for Texas Tech or any other remaining Big 12 member. * It might be a last resort for some but if this league remains together in some fashion, expect scheduling alliances to be pursued with the Pac-12 or ACC. Those would be guaranteed games versus those leagues and a potentially completely separate rights deal to add revenue. * I had one person tell me yesterday that many believe Texas and Oklahoma were involved and working closely with ESPN on behalf of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State recently. The thought was that it eases political pressure in the two states and also ultimately dissolves the league so UT and OU would be off the hook on exit fees. * Once it becomes clear (officially) how quickly Texas and Oklahoma are out of this league, things could start to play out fairly quickly. That means we could be looking at a timeline of weeks, not months, on learning the immediate and long term future of the remaining eight Big 12 institutions." ***************** I heard from eh bringing that UT and OU were "helping" with finding a home for TTU and OKstate in order to make this go well.... that is apparently part of the issue that the Big12 was having with ESPN and the C&D order.... Romors on this "help" include: "OOC garuntees with both teams and the games being carried on the Pac12 TV deal" "Other OOC games with Pac teams with UT/OU " The PAC will be good for TUTU. Another mediocre team in a mediocre conference. IS this "SEC Privilege" thing? |
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Post by ghost on Jul 30, 2021 11:16:27 GMT -5
"#OCM"
"Other Conferences Matter"
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jul 30, 2021 11:23:11 GMT -5
"#OCM" "Other Conferences Matter" Yes they do. But the question remains.... Does it mean more?  |
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Post by ghost on Jul 30, 2021 11:32:10 GMT -5
"#OCM" "Other Conferences Matter" Yes they do. But the question remains.... Does it mean more? "#Allteamsmatter"? "#allconferencesmatter"?  |
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