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Post by MtnTiger on Jul 27, 2021 14:02:00 GMT -5
Lots of things can happen in 4 seasons.... The NIL might have killed all CFB by then.... Straws. You keeping grasping for them, but like the TV commercial with the old man fishing with a bill, you just can’t seem to grasp it.
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Post by RHVSamford Bulldog on Jul 27, 2021 14:06:22 GMT -5
Lots of things can happen in 4 seasons.... The NIL might have killed all CFB by then.... Straws. You keeping grasping for them, but like the TV commercial with the old man fishing with a bill, you just can’t seem to grasp it. Like those football Nat’l titles that UGA almost grabs!
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jul 27, 2021 14:14:56 GMT -5
Straws. You keeping grasping for them, but like the TV commercial with the old man fishing with a bill, you just can’t seem to grasp it. Like those football Nat’l titles that UGA almost grabs! Gotta love when a Gator throws out a ""UGA barb to an Auburn man when the Auburn man "challenges" the Gator man. Who is in whose head? GATA, mtntiger!
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Post by NCBulldawg on Jul 27, 2021 14:16:20 GMT -5
Oh...
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 27, 2021 14:21:37 GMT -5
Cmon Dude, this is such BS. The SEC did not go out looking to hoard anything. Texas is begging for a bailout and OU is like their baby sister. There are 4 other major conferences that can hoard as well. So far the Big10 has gone on record saying they have no interest in expanding their conference. Like to Big12, the PAC12 is just as inept as they come, and the ACC is Clemson & everyone else, and Clemson has no incentive to switch conferences since their current path to the CFP is a cake walk. Although I think the SEC will accept UT and OU, I'm totally against it. Also, make no mistake, the SEC will get their TV deals and the money that comes with that with or without your Big12 brethren. Quite frankly, you sound like a scorned girlfriend who just got dumped and now your totally butthurt. And the idea that every SEC school will make "$82million" per year with OU and UT has nothing to do with it? The reports that the SEC is looking a tOSU, Clemson, FSU, Michigan along with UT and OU mean nothing? And all due respect but after the amount of secrecy going on around this whole thing, who the hell knows WHO is out there planning? The reports the SEC wanted to make a 20 team super conference and brea away? thats not UT and OU.. thats the SEC.... The Big 12's instability isn't the fault of the SEC. The SEC didn't approach UT and OU about joining so there's no poaching going on. UT and OU are exercising their right to leave and it's ridiculous to expect the SEC to say "Well, it's not good for the Big12 schools and college football as a whole. Therefore, we aren't interested." It's not up to the SEC to be the arbiter of the college football future. They are acting in their own financial self interest which makes sense. That's exactly what they should do. The SEC isn't looking to raid other conferences, but they can't help it if there is a long line of programs wishing to join the SEC. The SEC was going to be making 70+ million per team anyhow with the new tv contracts. I'll also say the 82 million estimate is wrong because the SEC takes an equal share of the revenue so it's more likely to be around 77 million. You sound like a liberal: "it's not fair, we must stop big bad [enter organization name here] and distribute the wealth more widely.
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Post by ghost on Jul 27, 2021 14:36:10 GMT -5
And the idea that every SEC school will make "$82million" per year with OU and UT has nothing to do with it? The reports that the SEC is looking a tOSU, Clemson, FSU, Michigan along with UT and OU mean nothing? And all due respect but after the amount of secrecy going on around this whole thing, who the hell knows WHO is out there planning? The reports the SEC wanted to make a 20 team super conference and brea away? thats not UT and OU.. thats the SEC.... The Big 12's instability isn't the fault of the SEC. The SEC didn't approach UT and OU about joining so there's no poaching going on. UT and OU are exercising their right to leave and it's ridiculous to expect the SEC to say "Well, it's not good for the Big12 schools and college football as a whole. Therefore, we aren't interested." It's not up to the SEC to be the arbiter of the college football future. They are acting in their own financial self interest which makes sense. That's exactly what they should do. The SEC isn't looking to raid other conferences, but they can't help it if there is a long line of programs wishing to join the SEC. The SEC was going to be making 70+ million per team anyhow with the new tv contracts. I'll also say the 82 million estimate is wrong because the SEC takes an equal share of the revenue so it's more likely to be around 77 million. You sound like a liberal: "it's not fair, we must stop big bad [enter organization name here] and distribute the wealth more widely. yeah yeah , straw man argument trying to dissuade a legitamate argument about a SPORT by trying to associate it with liberal "woke politics"..... Life is not fair. But sports are suppose to be. And the major issue is "State sponsored schools" and how one schools greed can destroy another in-state schools finances, quality of education, costs, etc.
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 27, 2021 14:41:42 GMT -5
When was sports ever fair? Maybe in YMCA youth sports. But high school and at the college - it has never been fair.
Pro sports try to make it fair with a draft, but management and coaching make it unfair.
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 27, 2021 14:45:10 GMT -5
The finances of the athletic department are different from school finances. Sports have never been fair, some teams (and individuals) have built in advantages. The NFL is probably the closest thing to "fair" that we have. It's absurd to expect UT to act in the financial best interest of TT etc. It's absurd to expect the SEC to act in the financial best interest of the Big 12.
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Post by MtnTiger on Jul 27, 2021 15:00:15 GMT -5
The Big 12's instability isn't the fault of the SEC. The SEC didn't approach UT and OU about joining so there's no poaching going on. UT and OU are exercising their right to leave and it's ridiculous to expect the SEC to say "Well, it's not good for the Big12 schools and college football as a whole. Therefore, we aren't interested." It's not up to the SEC to be the arbiter of the college football future. They are acting in their own financial self interest which makes sense. That's exactly what they should do. The SEC isn't looking to raid other conferences, but they can't help it if there is a long line of programs wishing to join the SEC. The SEC was going to be making 70+ million per team anyhow with the new tv contracts. I'll also say the 82 million estimate is wrong because the SEC takes an equal share of the revenue so it's more likely to be around 77 million. You sound like a liberal: "it's not fair, we must stop big bad [enter organization name here] and distribute the wealth more widely. yeah yeah , straw man argument trying to dissuade a legitamate argument about a SPORT by trying to associate it with liberal "woke politics"..... Life is not fair. But sports are suppose to be. And the major issue is "State sponsored schools" and how one schools greed can destroy another in-state schools finances, quality of education, costs, etc. You really need to do some research on how all these schools athletic associations are set up.
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Post by ghost on Jul 27, 2021 15:03:21 GMT -5
IF my stance was truly a "woke" liberal one... i would say "let the SEC has $80m per school............ all none SEC schools get to start with 20 points, a FD is only 5 yards, and you start from the 50 every possession.
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Post by theswan on Jul 27, 2021 15:04:35 GMT -5
The finances of the athletic department are different from school finances. Sports have never been fair, some teams (and individuals) have built in advantages. The NFL is probably the closest thing to "fair" that we have. It's absurd to expect UT to act in the financial best interest of TT etc. It's absurd to expect the SEC to act in the financial best interest of the Big 12. I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 27, 2021 15:14:24 GMT -5
The finances of the athletic department are different from school finances. Sports have never been fair, some teams (and individuals) have built in advantages. The NFL is probably the closest thing to "fair" that we have. It's absurd to expect UT to act in the financial best interest of TT etc. It's absurd to expect the SEC to act in the financial best interest of the Big 12. I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this Role reversal? I’m usually in favor of businesses acting in their own self interest.
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Post by theswan on Jul 27, 2021 15:22:29 GMT -5
I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this Role reversal? I’m usually in favor of businesses acting in their own self interest. I get that. It's more about David's take on this.
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Post by ghost on Jul 27, 2021 15:54:25 GMT -5
The finances of the athletic department are different from school finances. Sports have never been fair, some teams (and individuals) have built in advantages. The NFL is probably the closest thing to "fair" that we have. It's absurd to expect UT to act in the financial best interest of TT etc. It's absurd to expect the SEC to act in the financial best interest of the Big 12. I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit.
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Post by theswan on Jul 27, 2021 16:09:03 GMT -5
I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit. I don't like this expansion bs anymore than you do. I think it's stupid. The victim mentality, though.
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Post by dougefresh on Jul 27, 2021 17:33:13 GMT -5
Cannot make this up. How ironic? See new Tweets Tweet Chip Brown @chipbrown247 · 2h A source close to the situation said the buyout money for #Texas and #Oklahoma to leave the #Big12 before 2025 could come from the roughly $160 million #UT is still owed by ESPN for the final 10 years of ESPN's 20-yr, $300 million contract with Texas for the Longhorn Network. I suspect OU and Texas are playing a game of chicken with the remaining Big 12 members. Now that everyone knows OU and Texas are leaving, the Big 12 teams will start looking around and at some point most of them will find new homes. As that happens more and more teams will be willing to vote for letting everyone go their separate ways without financial penalty. Of course POu and Texas might add in some money to grease the skids.
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Post by USCGamecocks on Jul 27, 2021 18:13:00 GMT -5
I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit. It’s all one product because it’s a closed league with 32 teams. CFB has 130 fbs teams…you really think the money should pooled and distributed? That’s asinine.
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Post by MtnTiger on Jul 27, 2021 18:43:06 GMT -5
I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit. Socialist!!!
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Post by banned on Jul 27, 2021 19:11:36 GMT -5
I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit. Socialist!!! Pretty soon, he will want to defund the refs.
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Post by tophb21 on Jul 27, 2021 20:27:17 GMT -5
Pretty soon, he will want to defund the refs. I think that crusade was started about a decade ago. 😂
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Post by ghost on Jul 27, 2021 20:31:13 GMT -5
Pretty soon, he will want to defund the refs. I think that crusade was started about a decade ago. 😂 Appearently I need to comment more aboi my displeasure of officiating
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Post by ghost on Jul 27, 2021 20:35:01 GMT -5
The product should be sold as one.
It’s stupif and should not even be called a “sport”.
It’s turning into the WWE
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Post by ghost on Jul 27, 2021 21:59:31 GMT -5
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Post by geauxtigerfan on Jul 28, 2021 0:06:05 GMT -5
I really appreciate the role reversal when it comes to cfb! This is excellent!! I needed this I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit. Abilene Christian has a 12,000 seat football stadium - Bama has a 100,000 seat stadium. Lot of revenue difference right there - so colleges are going to generate a different revenue base. And how many fans watch Abilene Christian play on TV? So how much advertising can Abilene Christian generate - a lot less than Bama and a lot less than TTU.
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Post by ghost on Jul 28, 2021 3:26:08 GMT -5
I understand Business is Business and blah hl blah.... but not in SPORTS.. CFB should be sold as a single product. should be sold as one.. Just like the NFL..... the NFL does not pay the NFC east and NFC south different..... Its all one sport. The FBS should be the same. If they are not going to be the Cut the P5's out completely and pay the 64 teams the same..... the others the same... But holy fuck imagine if Abilene Christian and Alabama got the same $$$ or a TV deal.... They can get all the private donors and Alumi they want... they can do anything else... but these TV contracts are bulshit. Abilene Christian has a 12,000 seat football stadium - Bama has a 100,000 seat stadium. Lot of revenue difference right there - so colleges are going to generate a different revenue base. And how many fans watch Abilene Christian play on TV? So how much advertising can Abilene Christian generate - a lot less than Bama and a lot less than TTU. You gotta think if they had $50m a year they would upgrade the stadium and facilities... I jus5 threw a name out.
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Post by 75tranzam on Jul 28, 2021 7:11:56 GMT -5
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Post by athens on Jul 28, 2021 8:44:21 GMT -5
Hilarious. But I honestly hope A&M beats them every time they play.
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 28, 2021 9:13:18 GMT -5
I don't hope they just beat them. I hope they beat the ever living hell out of those arrogant pricks.
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Post by Geaux Tigers on Jul 28, 2021 9:35:24 GMT -5
I don't hope they just beat them. I hope they beat the ever living hell out of those arrogant pricks. aTm or Texas?
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Post by bigdawgs on Jul 28, 2021 9:54:00 GMT -5
The one's who wear brown.
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