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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2015 12:33:13 GMT -5
Thomas Brown leaving for Miami. Good luck but not a devastating loss IMO.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2015 12:42:32 GMT -5
Dont like losing Thomas at all.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2015 18:49:04 GMT -5
What does the loss of UGA running backs coach Thomas Brown mean for the only commitment at that position for this year’s class?
Elijah Holyfield told 247sports.com’s Kipp Adams he was “still solid” in his commitment to UGA, and that coach Kirby Smart asked for the chance to bring in a new guy to replace Brown, who will take a similar position as running backs coach at Miami for Mark Richt.
The 4-star running back rates as the nation’s No. 5 prospect at his position for the Class of 2016. The Woodward Academy senior is ranked as the No. 17 overall player in Georgia this year.
UGA has already lost another top-rated running back in this year’s class in Devwah Whaley of Texas. He was one of five recruits that de-committed since the coaching change. The loss of Brown also all but eliminates UGA for Whaley.
Brown had continued to recruit him after his de-commitment after Mark Richt was fired at UGA.
Jeff Sentell covers UGA football and UGA recruiting for AJC.com and The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Follow him on Twitter for the latest on who’s on their way to play Between the Hedges.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2015 18:51:34 GMT -5
UGA paid $42K to a Search Firm to spend less than 48 hours to provide the name of the guy they had chosen weeks before. Obviously no worries about the "reserve fund" from these idiots. Maybe we could have spent a bit of that to boost Thomas Brown's salary to compete with Miami.
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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2015 18:56:16 GMT -5
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2015 19:01:43 GMT -5
When Miami can offer more pay than UGA, Kirby better start sweating. I don't like the idea of losing both BMac and Brown. Frankly, not happy with much of anything going on right now in Athens. Amateur hour. This whole Pruitt to Bama while Kirby is still there is bullshit. Operating from weakness which should surprise no one considering the idiot at Butts-Mehre.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 22, 2015 19:34:29 GMT -5
Add Richt to the list of not retained... biggest loss of all. I still cannot fathom getting rid of him for a guy that has never been an HC before.
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Post by CFF on Dec 22, 2015 19:38:27 GMT -5
Add Richt to the list of not retained... biggest loss of all. I still cannot fathom getting rid of him for a guy that has never been an HC before. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2015 19:38:29 GMT -5
Add Richt to the list of not retained... biggest loss of all. I still cannot fathom getting rid of him for a guy that has never been an HC before. Yeah, who knows, maybe CMR would have played for another SEC Title again in the next 7 years. We could always hope!
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Post by CFF on Dec 22, 2015 19:52:58 GMT -5
Add Richt to the list of not retained... biggest loss of all. I still cannot fathom getting rid of him for a guy that has never been an HC before. Yeah, who knows, maybe CMR would have played for another SEC Title again in the next 7 years. We could always hope! I would venture to guess that CKS will not be playing for one any time soon. We shall see.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Dec 22, 2015 20:13:06 GMT -5
As the Dawg Turns. Stay tuned to next week's episode and see what players get into trouble and suspended for the Bowl game, or worse. Sure hope all this loose shit gets tightened up soon. Don't care for the path that is being traveled down at this particular point in time.
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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2015 20:41:14 GMT -5
Yeah, who knows, maybe CMR would have played for another SEC Title again in the next 7 years. We could always hope! I would venture to guess that CKS will not be playing for one any time soon. We shall see. Why not, he has just a good a chance as CMR had.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2015 21:21:27 GMT -5
What are the odds that after 5 years he will have a 4-1 record against Tennessee, 4-1 record against Auburn, 4-1 record against Tech and a 3-2 record against Florida?
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Post by CFF on Dec 22, 2015 21:48:05 GMT -5
What are the odds that after 5 years he will have a 4-1 record against Tennessee, 4-1 record against Auburn, 4-1 record against Tech and a 3-2 record against Florida? That is what I was thinking. Our Saban disciple didn't work out for us. He even had Saban's vote of confidence.
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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2015 22:10:33 GMT -5
What are the odds that after 5 years he will have a 4-1 record against Tennessee, 4-1 record against Auburn, 4-1 record against Tech and a 3-2 record against Florida? Who knows, but I would bet money on the fact that CMR wouldn't have that record the NEXT 5 years against those teams. I see you didn't mention the 0-5 record the last 5 years in winning the SEC East or his 2-3 record in bowl games the last 5 years. I don't think the 4-1 record against the Vols were great wins considering how close those games were against truly bad UT teams and really you could say the same thing about those wins over Tech. UGA had plateaued under Richt. I honestly think he had taken UGA as far as he could. I still can't believe all the hand wringing and worry that UGA will somehow fall to obscurity in the SEC because we got rid of a guy who refused to adapt his kicking philosophies even though people screamed for change, made several questionable AC hires and then stayed loyal to said coaches year after year. Constant clock mismanagement and burning of timeouts year after year. Let's not forget he never placed limitations on transfers, even if it was to hated rivals. Great guy, good coach but man losing 2-3 games a year to teams we should have beat the last 5 years killed us. It's absolutely fucking hilarious how Vol fans who constantly talked about how CMR got outcoached and underperformed as a coach NOW want to say what a mistake it is to let the guy go. You would think the way some other fans of other teams talk that he was a HC to be feared instead of the guy you could count on to not control players from stupid antics before, during or after the game. A coach who would act dumbfounded when his team beat their collective chests before the game and collected stupid penalty after stupid penalty during a humiliating loss. A coach who would squib kick to GT with 15 seconds left up by 3 instead of booming a kick into the endzone. Oh well, it's just rehashing the same argument. I look at it this way. You can't change the culture in Athens by firing the top guy but keeping all of his old staff. For CKS to be successful he has to have the coaches he wants.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 22, 2015 22:21:53 GMT -5
Fact...Richt dominated Georgia's biggest rivals. We have no idea what Kirby will do. But we have seen what Muschamp and Dooley did so what gives you confidence that it will be better. History is clearly against Smart. I hope he wins....but I am going to be every bit as critical of him as others have been of Richt. I am frankly fed up with Georgia fans giving the guy a pass before he even gets his ass out of Tuscaloosa. I don't want to hear shit about it is his first year and he needs to have his players. His cupboard ain't empty...we don't have that traditional Gator excuse. Anything less than 9 wins next year is a fail.
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Post by dawgsfan59 on Dec 22, 2015 22:23:29 GMT -5
I see your point trans, but I also see their points as well. Looking at hires after Fulmer, were well, horrible. They are seeing the dawgs might end up on that same path. If you look at DC's being promoted to HC positions, well the record is not good. Unlike it is for OC's being promoted to HC positions. Will that be the case for CKS, who the hell knows. But I do agree it was time for a change, but it was handled in a piss poor manner, and that falls squarely on the AD's shoulders. Which I would like to knock his damn head off of, and that in lies much of the distain I think, on how it was handled. CMR deserved a better exit, all things considered on how it was handled we should be thankful he is a Christian man, or else that whole situation could have gotten real ugly. Just my thoughts on the situation.
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Post by 75tranzam on Dec 22, 2015 22:52:01 GMT -5
As I've said, I didn't like the way CMR was dismissed but then again how could it have been better in terms of letting him go? Wait till after the Bowl game? Wait till almost every good fired HC or AC had a job? Wait till 3 weeks before NSD and then fire him? Worse yet trot out the old tired, "well he deserved one more year to try turning things around because he's won a lot of games in the past for UGA." 5 years of being favored to win the SEC East or compete for the trip to Atlanta and watching the Dawgs piss the bed against worse teams. 5 years of dumbfounding losses to inferior teams we were favored to win.
Hell, around this time last month Dabo got mad about someone used the term "Clemsoning" and some Dawg fans suggested we could now call it "Georgiaing" instead and they were right!
I've never said Kirby was a lock for winning the SEC and leading UGA to a NC. I have urged Dawg fans to be patient and let things play out. I do believe the guy gets a year or two before he should be held accountable. New staffs have to gel, players have to learn new schemes and UGA doesn't have near the depth it needs at WR, QB, OL ,LB and DL right now. Add on top of that the normal player transfers when a new coaching staff comes on board as new schemes need different bodies to run those schemes and although the cupboard isn't bare it's not stocked full of blue chip players 2 deep needed for grueling 4 quarter battles in the SEC. It's still the same team that struggled to beat Auburn, Georgia Southern and Georgia Tech down the stretch.
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Post by bamainmt on Dec 22, 2015 23:55:56 GMT -5
Fact...Richt dominated Georgia's biggest rivals. We have no idea what Kirby will do. But we have seen what Muschamp and Dooley did so what gives you confidence that it will be better. History is clearly against Smart. I hope he wins....but I am going to be every bit as critical of him as others have been of Richt. I am frankly fed up with Georgia fans giving the guy a pass before he even gets his ass out of Tuscaloosa. I don't want to hear shit about it is his first year and he needs to have his players. His cupboard ain't empty...we don't have that traditional Gator excuse. Anything less than 9 wins next year is a fail. Have you looked at your depth chart lately? You lose 5 on O, 5 on D, and both your punter and kicker. You are all banking on a freshman QB, that is not even on campus yet.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 8:04:26 GMT -5
Fact...Richt dominated Georgia's biggest rivals. We have no idea what Kirby will do. But we have seen what Muschamp and Dooley did so what gives you confidence that it will be better. History is clearly against Smart. I hope he wins....but I am going to be every bit as critical of him as others have been of Richt. I am frankly fed up with Georgia fans giving the guy a pass before he even gets his ass out of Tuscaloosa. I don't want to hear shit about it is his first year and he needs to have his players. His cupboard ain't empty...we don't have that traditional Gator excuse. Anything less than 9 wins next year is a fail. Have you looked at your depth chart lately? You lose 5 on O, 5 on D, and both your punter and kicker. You are all banking on a freshman QB, that is not even on campus yet. I have noticed our depth chart. I occasionally pay attention to that. We return 16 of the starting 22 on defense...a defense that was one of the best in the conference. The entire secondary returns. We are more challenged on offense but we finally have some depth on the O line. We have Chubb and Michel back plus Holyfield, if he remains committed. WR is a challenge, no doubt. So is QB, but you supposedly hired a quarterback guru that should help both our current QBs. For almost 15 years QB has not been much of an issue in Athens...until Mike Bobo left and Richt hired Shotty. My guess is that neither Lambert or Ramsey is as bad as portrayed last year. When Richt was fired we had the #5 recruiting class in the country. We will see if that holds. Most importantly, have you seen our schedule for next year? Winning 9 games will hardly get anyone consideration for coach of the year. If this is the great step up that we have heard about; if this is finally a coach who is going to stop our underachieving, then how is demanding 9 wins next year so unreasonable? I have not said that we have to win the weakest division in Power 5 college football. I have not said that the new coach has to win the SEC. I have said 9 games should be the bar and if he can't reach that with this talent and that schedule, then perhaps we are overestimating this hire. I find it utterly amazing that the same people who bitch about underachieving are ready to accept mediocrity just because it is year one. Richt won 8 games his first year inheriting a team that had lost to Auburn, Tech and Florida the year before.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 8:06:37 GMT -5
And actually, our punter is back. The real punter that is.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 8:39:45 GMT -5
College football will introduce several new head coaches in 2015.
The folks at Pro Football Focus gave their take on which ones will inherit the most talent this offseason, based on their own production grades. At the top of the list is new Georgia head coach Kirby Smart.
Smart was the coordinator of a lot of great defenses at Alabama, and he will take over a unit with several productive players next season. The Bulldogs ranked No. 14 in our overall defense grades this season, and while star outside linebackers Leonard Floyd and Jordan Jenkins will depart, there is a lot of returning talent.
The entire secondary will be back, led by cornerbacks Malkom Parrish and Aaron Davis, and there are several young linebackers who earned positive grades on limited snaps this season, including Roquan Smith, Natrez Patrick and Davin Bellamy (who recorded an impressive 16 total pressures, including four sacks). Nose tackle Trenton Thompson looks like a potential 2016 breakout player after grading very well as a true freshman.
The offense will require more work, but the Bulldogs’ three top-graded linemen return along with playmaking wide receiver Terry Godwin, and the running back tandem of Nick Chubb (No. 5 in PFF grades last year, who missed most of this season due to injury) and Sony Michel (No. 40 in PFF grades this year) should be one of the best in college football.
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Post by athens on Dec 23, 2015 14:56:23 GMT -5
Ramsey has been there for 3 years now, correct? That means he got to work with Bobo for 2 years. I don't foresee great improvement from him regardless of who is there, unless you mean as a punter.
Lambert has been unimpressive in multiple stops. Don't foresee it for him either.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 15:29:53 GMT -5
Bryan McClendan going to be assistant coach at South Carolina.
As for the quarterbacks....except for last year there was a guy you may have heard of working for Bobo. He was pretty good. Even his successor wasn't too bad. Would have been interesting to see either of those guys at least get a shot under Bobo instead of that dumbass they hired.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 16:00:55 GMT -5
I certainly hope that Kirby has something in mind. He has just lost Georgia's best recruiting tandem...Pruitt and McClendon. The guy who recruited Gurley and Marshall and Michel and Chubb is now recruiting for our friends across the Savannah River.
Will Muschamp announced a few new additions to his coaching staff on Wednesday, including a name that UGA fans are familiar with.
Bryan McClendon, who served as UGA’s recruiting coordinator under Mark Richt the last two years, has been hired as South Carolina’s co-offensive coordinator and receivers coach.
“Bryan is an up-and-comer in the coaching profession,” Muschamp said in a statement. “It says a lot about his abilities as a coach to be named the interim head coach for the Bulldogs in their bowl game.”
No doubt McClendon is an attractive hire for South Carolina because the state of Georgia (and more specifically, Atlanta) is arguably the most important recruiting ground for the Gamecocks. McClendon was named 247sports.com National Recruiter of the Year for 2014.
McClendon, who is working as UGA’s interim head coach through the bowl game, has been an assistant for the Bulldogs since 2009. He also played football at UGA from 2002 to 2005, and he’s the son of former Bulldogs star running back Willie McClendon. Bryan has coached both receivers and running backs at UGA.
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Post by NCBulldawg on Dec 23, 2015 16:36:49 GMT -5
Light fuse, run away.
Better hope it is a dud, or Georgia football just might very well feel the sting of the slap this year. Sooooooo...when is Kirby Smart supposed to start acting like a coach at the University of Georgia and doing all those little "things" that are involved when transitioning into a new job. Let alone, that new job being that of the HEAD F'in COACH of the Georgia Bulldogs? February? Wow! Just...wow.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 17:20:05 GMT -5
I think it is safe to say that there are differences of opinion in Dawgnation.
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Post by Bradimous1 on Dec 23, 2015 18:10:34 GMT -5
Light fuse, run away. Better hope it is a dud, or Georgia football just might very well feel the sting of the slap this year. Sooooooo...when is Kirby Smart supposed to start acting like a coach at the University of Georgia and doing all those little "things" that are involved when transitioning into a new job. Let alone, that new job being that of the HEAD F'in COACH of the Georgia Bulldogs? February? Wow! Just...wow. Been saying this since day 1! *adds another fuse, lights it and follows NCBD out
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Post by bamainmt on Dec 23, 2015 18:36:35 GMT -5
Have you looked at your depth chart lately? You lose 5 on O, 5 on D, and both your punter and kicker. You are all banking on a freshman QB, that is not even on campus yet. I have noticed our depth chart. I occasionally pay attention to that. We return 16 of the starting 22 on defense...a defense that was one of the best in the conference. The entire secondary returns. We are more challenged on offense but we finally have some depth on the O line. We have Chubb and Michel back plus Holyfield, if he remains committed. WR is a challenge, no doubt. So is QB, but you supposedly hired a quarterback guru that should help both our current QBs. For almost 15 years QB has not been much of an issue in Athens...until Mike Bobo left and Richt hired Shotty. My guess is that neither Lambert or Ramsey is as bad as portrayed last year. When Richt was fired we had the #5 recruiting class in the country. We will see if that holds. Most importantly, have you seen our schedule for next year? Winning 9 games will hardly get anyone consideration for coach of the year. If this is the great step up that we have heard about; if this is finally a coach who is going to stop our underachieving, then how is demanding 9 wins next year so unreasonable? I have not said that we have to win the weakest division in Power 5 college football. I have not said that the new coach has to win the SEC. I have said 9 games should be the bar and if he can't reach that with this talent and that schedule, then perhaps we are overestimating this hire. I find it utterly amazing that the same people who bitch about underachieving are ready to accept mediocrity just because it is year one. Richt won 8 games his first year inheriting a team that had lost to Auburn, Tech and Florida the year before. Of those not returning, if you include Floyd, equals 40% of your tackles this year.
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Post by bigdawgs on Dec 23, 2015 18:51:21 GMT -5
Kirby Smart is taking over a program that has won 19 games in two years. How many other coaches who have taken over for fired coaches have done that? Please, stop trying to lower the bar. All we heard is how great this guy was and as soon as he is the man, his defenders start lining up the excuses. Less than 9 wins with this schedule is a fail. Period.
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